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For everything that was said, and all the post debate discussions, did the 3rd debate matter? Did it change many votes?
For everything that was said, and all the post debate discussions, did the 3rd debate matter? Did it change many votes?
No debate in the world is going to make me vote for Trump or Clinton. Presidential debates are for those who pay little to no attention to politics.
No debate in the world is going to make me vote for Trump or Clinton. Presidential debates are for those who pay little to no attention to politics.
For everything that was said, and all the post debate discussions, did the 3rd debate matter? Did it change many votes?
They seem to matter in the US. I think it's more a matter of presentation than substance. I doubt anybody could get elected anywhere today just putting their platform and policies out on the radio.
That said, I would sit this one out too.
They seem to matter in the US. I think it's more a matter of presentation than substance. I doubt anybody could get elected anywhere today just putting their platform and policies out on the radio.
That said, I would sit this one out too.
Actually, the bolded seems to have reversed the past few weeks, and quite a few polls have picked-up on it.Well, let's define "matter", and in that regard it mattered a lot as neither side lost any ground. However, it appears Trump's attempt to steal the show with his childishly defiant "I'll keep you in suspense" is being hijacked by a totally different and organic dialogue; that being how large will be the turn out and the dangers inherent in that for Hilary.
Where a large part of Trump's base is rabid and will no doubt eagerly go to the polls, much of Hilary's support has been soft. The danger for her now is an undercurrent of ennui caused the idea that Trump is simply too horrible to get elected and the other side of that coin where, in the end, no amount of nose holding will allow them to fill in the top of the ballot.
I see this ultimately as close, possibly another Bush/Gore win only this time for the Democrats; Trump then causing all sorts of constitutional havoc and finally relenting when his immense ego feels like it has extracted enough revenge for the teasing Obama gave him at the White House press corps dinner.
Yeah, debate #2 was dark & sinister IMO. A foreshadowing of what a Trump Presidency may look like.The debates were painful. I'm glad they're over.
Yeah, debate #2 was dark & sinister IMO. A foreshadowing of what a Trump Presidency may look like.
I haven't been impressed by any of the candidates or the campaigns. The debates were just icing on a **** cake. It's going to be a bumpy ride no matter who wins. I don't mind bumpy rides, but at my age I want to be able to pick which ones I'm willing to suffer. Neither of these two offer me any choice in the matter, and the third party candidates remain an electoral joke. The biggest danger at this point would be if the election ends up in the House. All hell will break loose then.
For everything that was said, and all the post debate discussions, did the 3rd debate matter? Did it change many votes?
Actually, the bolded seems to have reversed the past few weeks, and quite a few polls have picked-up on it.
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Source: Twitter Nick Gourevitch
And similar in nature:
"More registered voters would feel “enthusiastic” or “pleased” if Clinton were to win in November (37 percent), than would feel that way about a Trump win (30 percent). "
Source: Fox News Poll
For this and other reasons I believe it will be a strong win Clinton.
Well, I'll tell ya':I haven't been impressed by any of the candidates or the campaigns. The debates were just icing on a **** cake. It's going to be a bumpy ride no matter who wins. I don't mind bumpy rides, but at my age I want to be able to pick which ones I'm willing to suffer. Neither of these two offer me any choice in the matter, and the third party candidates remain an electoral joke. The biggest danger at this point would be if the election ends up in the House. All hell will break loose then.
At this point it is the only fitting end to the bizarre, upside-down bass-ackwards election.
You're welcome.That's being missed by our CBC. Thanks.
It appears Trump's antics have put some mojo behind the old witch
For everything that was said, and all the post debate discussions, did the 3rd debate matter? Did it change many votes?
As you're asking for predictions instead of results (since we won't have concrete poll results for a week), my prediction is that it will not have changed many votes. The goal was for Clinton to hold on to her states and for Trump to gain additional ones. Clinton was the one who achieved her goal.
Well, I'll tell ya':
I really disliked HRC, and didn't want her as president. But, I'm slightly warming up to her - just slightly.
I think after contrasting her to the boondoggle of Donald Trump, she's looking better to me in terms of competent leadership.
I still don't like her or her personality, but I think I can accept her in terms of competency.
Did it have any effect on how you will vote?
It didn't matter, most minds were well set prior to any debates. Only around 6% of the electorate was undecided prior to the first debate and roughly 6% are still undecided. Considering Hillary has a six point lead or according to some polls more, there is no way Trump could convince every single undecided to vote for him.
I can't wait until this election is over. Trump has done everything he could possibly do to make sure Clinton won with his ineptness, his foot in mouth disease, his constant bullying actions, his making enemies within his own party, the feuds he started, and on and on. Historians will look back on this election and wonder if making sure Clinton won was what Trump was all about with his million and one miscues. Conspiracy theories will arise, in fact they have started already according to a couple of other threads and posts.
You're welcome.
BTW, take a read of the Fox article if you don't mind - it's short, and comprised of demographic quantitative analysis. Looking at the numbers contained in the article might give you pause, if you're still expecting a close race.
The problem the GOP had, was Donald was indeed Teflon through the Primary and deep into the General, snookering them and leaving them little recourse but to support him, until now when it's all too late the Teflon effect has worn off!