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Do you support legalization of marijuana?

Do you favor legalization of marijuana?

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I voted yes, but only when the legislation is well written. In the case of AZ prop 205 I will have to vote NO. The law is poorly written, way too many loopholes, etc.

The pro 205 people are pandering it as a way to improve education money. Some say pass 205, then later let the State Legislators modify the law to correct mistakes.
AZ State Legislators do not have a good track record in doing that.
 
For anyone interested, here's a summation of the effects of legalization in four states so far.

So Far, So Good: What We Know About Marijuana Legalization in Colorado, Washington, Alaska, Oregon and Washington, D.C. | Drug Policy Alliance


So Far, So Good: What We Know About Marijuana Legalization in Colorado, Washington, Alaska, Oregon and Washington, D.C.
October 13, 2016

PDF View the report.

In 2012, Colorado and Washington became the first two U.S. states – and the first two jurisdictions in the world – to approve ending marijuana prohibition and legally regulating marijuana production, distribution and sales. In the 2014 election, Alaska and Oregon followed suit, while Washington D.C. passed a more limited measure that legalized possession and home cultivation of marijuana (but did not address its taxation and sale due to D.C. law).
The report’s key findings include:

Marijuana arrests have plummeted in the states that legalized marijuana, although disproportionate enforcement of marijuana crimes against black people continues.
Statewide surveys of youth in Colorado, Washington, Alaska, and Oregon found that there were no significant increases in youth marijuana use post-legalization.
Tax revenues in Colorado, Washington, and Oregon have all exceeded initial revenue estimates, totaling $552 million.
Legalization has not led to more dangerous road conditions, as traffic fatality rates have remained stable in Colorado, Washington, Alaska, and Oregon.

More at link.
 
danarhea said:
My answer to that is nobody else's business except the person who chooses to smoke, unless he is endangering others by driving while high.
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What's wrong with driving while high? All potheads do it. Seems as safe as anything.
 
Bill would legalize marijuana in Delaware

A bill legalizing marijuana for Delaware adults is expected to be introduced in January when the General Assembly reconvenes, the Senate majority whip said.

Sen. Margaret Rose Henry, D-Wilmington, who penned Delaware's medical marijuana bill, said she will propose a bill that would legalize marijuana for Delawareans 21 and older. Henry said the bill has to be sent to the lawyers and she will work on gaining sponsors.
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I would have voted HELL F'N YES!!! had that been an option.
 
foadi said:
What's wrong with driving while high? All potheads do it. Seems as safe as anything.
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A. Driving while intoxicated, under the influence of anything, is a very bad idea.
B. No, not all 'potheads' do it.
 
I've never smoked and probably never well---hell yes I support legalization.
 
foadi said:
If it's so dangerous then why aren't there a bunch of pot-related accidents?
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Driving under the influence of anything is a bad idea.

If you need to have this explained to you and broken down into easily digestible parts, I'm neither interested in willing to do so.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Driving under the influence of anything is a bad idea.

If you need to have this explained to you and broken down into easily digestible parts, I'm neither interested in willing to do so.
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Your post doesn't make any sense. Is driving under the influence of nicotine a bad idea? Is driving under the influence of caffeine a bad idea? If you're not impaired, then what is the problem with driving while high? Again, literally millions of people drive while high every single day. Where are all the pot related accidents if it is such a bad idea?
 
danarhea said:
Voters in 5 states will be voting for legalization of marijuana. Do you favor legalization?
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I also favor the supreme court taking a weed whacker to the expansions of the commerce clause that "justified" the federal war on drugs. There is no rational reason to outlaw something that grows naturally in most of the USA
 
TurtleDude said:
I also favor the supreme court taking a weed whacker to the expansions of the commerce clause that "justified" the federal war on drugs. There is no rational reason to outlaw something that grows naturally in most of the USA
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Yup. BTW, my favorite quote of this election season comes from a speaker at the Libertarian Party convention....

I look forward to a day when a gay married couple can protect their marijuana field with machine guns. LOL.
 
Master PO said:
while i support people being able to grow pot to smoke, i don't understand how people condemn tobacco smoking and advocate marijuana smoking.
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because tobacco causes more death and disability than all of the other drugs combined, that's why.
 
Not only do I support it, I voted for it here in Colorado.
 
digsbe said:
You're correct. I used to be against legalization.

Going through pharmacy school and knowing the pharmacology behind THC use and comparing that with alcohol provides me with no rational reason to keep it illegal. Marijuana, as a drug, is hardly harmful and can be used responsibly (no driving high, not getting high in public, etc.). I think we waste too much time and money in the criminal justice system dealing with marijuana convictions as well.
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Glad to hear it.


Ultimately, that's the best reason of all. It has nothing to do with subjective feelings about people who ingest substances and enjoy the mental effects; it has nothing to do with government propaganda; it has nothing to do with personal inclination.

We're never going to do what I think is right, but what it is is this: allow and do rigorous studies of all recreational substances. Ignore any moral beliefs about whether it's bad to enjoy the mental state produced by ingesting a particular chemical. Decide after rational debate whether we have any business regulating self-harm and what an acceptable level of harm to others "associated" (FAIRLY!) with a particular substance is.

Set a bar. Under the bar all things are legal.

Do the same study. Now ask about decriminalization for personal use, not sale.

Set a new bar. All things between that and the last are not criminal to do; focus on harm-reduction programs.

If we cannot do that, then the very least we can do is support marijuana legalization. It's the safest recreational drug that is known to man. Alcohol is far worse. It really should be that simple for everyone.





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I don't understand how people, even those who think marijuana is utterly evil, can oppose this. Why? Because we know that the War on Drugs doesn't work. We KNOW it! Even in countries with the death penalty for selling drugs, people do drugs.

We know it doesn't stop people who want to get high on a particular thing. We know that a drug conviction causes massive socio-economic harm for an individual. We know that we have the highest incarceration rate of any developed nation. We know all sorts of things and all of them say that the War on Drugs is failed.

Therefore, no matter what one thinks of pot or any other drug, there is no valid argument for holding course.
 
Cardinal said:
Legalize it and make it retroactive. Putting people in prison for marijuana is no different in my mind from throwing somebody in prison for having sex in the wrong position.
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In fact, while courts would disagree, I think there is an implicit corollary to the ex post facto clause: if something is made legal for which you were convicted while it was illegal, you should receive a retroactive acquittal (or at the very least, a pardon).

That it was illegal when you did it is irrelevant by virtue of the fact that it should not have been illegal in the first place; an unjust law is no law at all.
 
Dittohead not! said:
The rationalization was that it made "darkies" think they were equal to white people. Really! Anti pot laws were a reflection of 1920's racism.
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Tanngrisnir said:
Oh, yes, I know the long, sordid and shameful history behind it.
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It's even worse than that. The guy in charge of fighting alcohol distribution found his agency without a purpose after it was relegalized. He focused on pot, ignoring all but one doctor (alliance unknown) queried, making the case that it was awful and kicking off reefer madness.

That then was taken advantage of to target Mexican immigrants in southern states. A decade or so later, the black musicians (then blacks generally) were targetted






It was all about justifying an agency's continuing purpose. Score: libertarian
 
I'm voting yes on 205, it should absolutely be legal.

I'm amazed that "Officer Friday" hasn't shown up on this thread to lie about marijuana and post bogus studies...
 
Mr Person said:
It's even worse than that. The guy in charge of fighting alcohol distribution found his agency without a purpose after it was relegalized. He focused on pot, ignoring all but one doctor (alliance unknown) queried, making the case that it was awful and kicking off reefer madness.

That then was taken advantage of to target Mexican immigrants in southern states. A decade or so later, the black musicians (then blacks generally) were targetted

It was all about justifying an agency's continuing purpose. Score: libertarian
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Ah, yes, you are referring the to excrescent and execrable sack of human feces, Harry Jacob Anslinger. A man who not only ended up resembling J. Edgar, but who may have actually been his twin in the evil effects of his time in power.

I know him well. May he rot in Hell.
 
danarhea said:
Voters in 5 states will be voting for legalization of marijuana. Do you favor legalization?
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I prefer Decriminalization, that way anyone can grow or trade or hold without the government being involved in any way, why on earth should they and who said they could.
 
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