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Recent allegations of Trump groping and barging in on half naked ladies, believable?

Do you belive the recent allegations Trump groped and walked in on naked ladies?

  • No. These are lies intended to steal a presidential election.

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Yes. I believe these allegations are true.

    Votes: 40 69.0%

  • I honestly am not convinced eitrher way. His word against theirs.

    Votes: 6 10.3%

  • I don't care.

    Votes: 10 17.2%
  • Total voters
    58
Re: Recent allegations of Trump groping and barging in on half naked ladies, believab

Greenbeard said:
The guy is on tape admitting (bragging, really) that this is how he acts. Yes, these stories are pretty believable.
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why do I get the feeling that if Trump was the Democrat nominee, the people claiming that this was so awful wouldn't be heard at all?
 
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TurtleDude said:
why do I get the feeling that if Trump was the Democrat nominee, the people claiming that this was so awful wouldn't be heard at all?
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If he were, I'm sure there'd be very loud calls for this sexual predator's opponent to appoint a special prosecutor after the election. Threatening to jail your political opponents after defeating them is in vogue now, after all.

Lock him up!
 
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Greenbeard said:
If he were, I'm sure there'd be very loud calls for this sexual predator's opponent to appoint a special prosecutor after the election. Threatening to jail your political opponents after defeating them is in vogue now, after all.

Lock him up!
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Go ahead, have at it.
 
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Geoist said:
Plus coming out before his presidential run involved very high risk with little reward when you consider how Trump and his team of lawyers could make life hell. Now that the spotlight is on him and his past 24/7 the reward seems higher than the risk (at least for those who are speaking).
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Not to mention, they're probably safer in numbers, too.
 
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Booo closed poll.
 
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TurtleDude said:
This shows how corrupt American politics are. should have raised this stuff in the primary. hopefully some of the stuff we know Hillary did will get equal attention by the lapdog Media
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:lamo Seriously?

There is no difference anymore between the media and the Hillary campaign. They have now become one and the same entity.

Foreshadowing of her state controlled media, should be be elected POTUS.
 
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Redress said:
Trump's policy plans will harm America. I do not give a **** about what he might have done, I care about what he will do if elected.
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And you believe that Hillary and the wake of corruption she'll drag into the White House will be just peachy?

Interesting.
 
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TurtleDude said:
This shows how corrupt American politics are. should have raised this stuff in the primary. hopefully some of the stuff we know Hillary did will get equal attention by the lapdog Media
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Maybe they're not into repeating stories that originated directly from the Kremlin? Maybe you're a big Putin supporter, but when I hear Trump reading Russian propaganda and attributing it to Podesta, that's not exactly something that "gets my attention" (he did that yesterday when he was doing his Hitler impression)
 
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TurtleDude said:
why do I get the feeling that if Trump was the Democrat nominee, the people claiming that this was so awful wouldn't be heard at all?
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Because that's exactly what'd happen.
 
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eohrnberger said:
And you believe that Hillary and the wake of corruption she'll drag into the White House will be just peachy?

Interesting.
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Better. I am not claiming good, just better than Trump. Once again, when you try and make up arguments for people, you are almost always going to be embarrassed. Stop trying to tell people what they think.
 
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Smeagol said:
New allegations came out today of Donald Trump not just engaging in locker room trash talk but actually groping women against their will and walking in on beauty contests while they were getting dressed and not fully clothed.

I'm not asking if these allegations:

- Will change your vote
- Mean nothing to you because Bill Clinton was no different or worse
- Only prove the media is biased

I am only asking do you believe they are true.
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The allegations are entirely consistent with the things we know to be true about him, and that's as far as I'll go for now.
 
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Cardinal said:
The allegations are entirely consistent with the things we know to be true about him, and that's as far as I'll go for now.
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interesting. In his book I believe Obama admitted to smoking crack and weed. So say someone showed up the week or two before the 2012 election and said "I saw Obama snorting coke in Air Force One"

would you find that credible?
 
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Smeagol said:
New allegations came out today of Donald Trump not just engaging in locker room trash talk but actually groping women against their will and walking in on beauty contests while they were getting dressed and not fully clothed.

I'm not asking if these allegations:

- Will change your vote
- Mean nothing to you because Bill Clinton was no different or worse
- Only prove the media is biased

I am only asking do you believe they are true.
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There is no way t0 know either way. I am always skeptical of women that wait ten years and surface at opportune times yet who knows?
 
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TurtleDude said:
interesting. In his book I believe Obama admitted to smoking crack and weed. So say someone showed up the week or two before the 2012 election and said "I saw Obama snorting coke in Air Force One"

would you find that credible?
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It wouldn't be consistent with what we know about him now. Having tried it once or twice isn't equivalent to using something habitually. But if you had said "I saw him smoking cigarettes," I'd respond, "Yeah, that's probably true" because we know Obama was until relatively recently a smoker (assuming he isn't any longer...I don't know). And speaking of habitually, we're gathering an increasing number of evidence by Trump's own word that objectifying women wasn't something he did once, it's something he did on an ongoing basis, even going so far as to brag about committing a sex crime. And that was all the way up to sixty years old.

The total spheres of information aren't equal.
 
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Fletch said:
There are two different stories there. The part about him walking in on contestants is almost certainly true since he admitted it himself. As to the newest groping allegations, I have no idea. I would say it is certainly possible, but the fact that they come forward 3 weeks before the election tends to strain their credibility a bit.
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No it doesn't. It's called strategy. As others have pointed out, the GOP and his primary opponents could've released this stuff a year ago. That they didn't is a failure on their part. And now with the election just weeks from now, it's bombs away time.

And how did Trump not know this stuff was going to come out. He's a gossiping, trash digging, crap stirring loudmouth who has taken every opportunity real and imagined to bring up past dirt on his opponents. It takes a serious lack of personal awareness combined with ancient Greek play levels of hubris to not clearly see that all this would come back to bite him. A person with ordinary sense would know better.

I don't have a fraction of the skeletons in my closet that Trump does but I can look back over the course of my life and know very quickly what things could be used against me in a political race. Yet Trump doesn't have that most basic sense of foresight. And he was supposed to be able to be POTUS???
 
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Smeagol said:
New allegations came out today of Donald Trump not just engaging in locker room trash talk but actually groping women against their will and walking in on beauty contests while they were getting dressed and not fully clothed.

I'm not asking if these allegations:

- Will change your vote
- Mean nothing to you because Bill Clinton was no different or worse
- Only prove the media is biased

I am only asking do you believe they are true.
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Yes. Even if these particular cases may or may not be true, I'm absolutely convinced there are women out there who were indeed sexually assaulted by Trump.

And I already assumed this long before the video last week. It was obvious from the very beginning that Trump is a misogynist prick, you didn't really need the video to confirm it.

If my knowledge of humans is not entirely off, you just needed a small glimpse of Trump's general behavior, his rhetorics, his demeanor, to know that he's exactly the type of man for that kind of thing. In all regards I can think of, this entire guy just screams "big asshole".

I've known people with all the same red flags in real life -- and each and every single one of them was a cocaine addict with a most questionable view of women.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest, if it was soon revealed Trump has a cocaine, aderall and/or similar category of stimulant problem, too.
 
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Redress said:
Better. I am not claiming good, just better than Trump. Once again, when you try and make up arguments for people, you are almost always going to be embarrassed. Stop trying to tell people what they think.
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I really wasn't. As I've posted before, who's the better (or in this case less worse) candidate for the nation depends on the individual, with no right or wrong answer.

I'm of the position that Hillary and her corruption would be far worse for the nation than Trump. I see that your opinion is the opposite. So be it. :shrug:
 
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eohrnberger said:
I really wasn't. As I've posted before, who's the better (or in this case less worse) candidate for the nation depends on the individual, with no right or wrong answer.

I'm of the position that Hillary and her corruption would be far worse for the nation than Trump. I see that your opinion is the opposite. So be it. :shrug:
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I can accept that.
 
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I don't care. I want this election to be over. I am so ****ing sorry, planet Earth, for the way this country is. I am concerned for the future of our nation and our planet no matter who wins this **** show.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
"walking in" sounds bad but it sounds pretty normal part of a beauty pageant to me... people changing constantly backstage? Same with sporting events.
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A guy walking in on a bunch of female contestants while they are changing is normal? Where? How many men hang out in the female locker room after a game?
 
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Black Dog said:
A guy walking in on a bunch of female contestants while they are changing is normal? Where? How many men hang out in the female locker room after a game?
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You are taking it out of context...
 
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Bodhisattva said:
You are taking it out of context...
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What out of context??? Please explain the context.
 
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Black Dog said:
What out of context??? Please explain the context.
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That beauty pageants and athletic teams are not normal situations.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
That beauty pageants and athletic teams are not normal situations.
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Neither is purposely walking in on the opposite sex while they are changing. That they are not "normal" situations has nothing to do with it. If the owner walked in on a daughter wife etc of mine? Well.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
You are taking it out of context...
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I think he means a lot, maybe even most, guys would if they could. Trump has achieved such a level of success and power that the "rules" that apply to most of us, don't apply to him in a lot of situations.

The sad reality is human character is flawed. I heard a report a while back of a poll was taken of young men between the ages of I think 17 and 25. It asked if you could have sex with any woman on earth of your choosing whether she wanted to or not with a guarantee of no repercussions, would you. The results were somewhere around 50% said yes. Its not the goodness of people hearts that prevents them from wrongdoing, its the fear of consequences in a lot of cases. If you live in a world where accountability applies to others, not you, its a crap shoot if you'll always do the right thing (or not do the wrong thing.)
 
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