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Tonights military forum - who had the leadership?

Which candidate was the most detailed and knowledgeable at the military forum?

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ecofarm said:
I told you the idiotic false equivocation of the US government and Putin, or the US and Russia, would be roundly rejected by anyone this side of Trutherville. I hereby, on behalf of sound minds and minimal education, reject your doing of just that.

No one said "no one cares" about anything. That's just a wild deflection on your part.
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Soundly rejected, as in selective amnesia when the red menace needs to be the enemy. I'm not disputing people reject the idea that heaven forbid the worlds third largest power could be an ally in a new world where terrorism is a bigger threat then WW3, only that such beliefs in other countries as the villain for things every major power does are wrong

Equivocation is not false merely because it is inconvenient to your world view
 
ecofarm said:
:screwy

Grad school opens one's mind. Higher learning is not "myopic knowledge". Want proof? Someone with grad school would not link spectator.org as legitimate or meaningful news. You'll just accept anything to push your narrative. You're inventing a conclusion and then searching feverishly for absolutely any trash that will support your pre-determined conclusion. That's exactly what grad school teaches us to avoid.
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Did grad school just keep you from looking like an asshat with no real knowledge about Hillary Clinton?

Nope :D

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ons-claim-that-she-tried-to-join-the-marines/
 
ajn678 said:
I never understood this. They are both the exact opposite in regards to almost all of their positions.
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I understand that.

But it's better to choose from those two than Hillary or Trump, IMO.
 
TheGoverness said:
And to Trump supporters, I'm giving my vote to Hillary.

Which one is it?
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Stein is left wing on both social issues and economics. A vote for her can be presumed to come from a potential Hillary vote. Johnson is left wing on social issues but right wing on economic issues. Johnson is an isolationist, like Trump, while Hillary is an interventionist. A vote for Johnson can be presumed to come from a potential Trump vote. So, a vote for Stein is a vote for Trump (because it removes a Hillary vote) and a vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary (because it removes a Trump vote).
 
ecofarm said:
Stein is left wing on both social issues and economics. A vote for her can be presumed to come from a potential Hillary vote. Johnson is left wing on social issues but right wing on economic issues. Johnson is an isolationist, like Trump, while Hillary is an interventionist. A vote for Johnson can be presumed to come from a potential Trump vote. So, a vote for Stein is a vote for Trump (because it removes a Hillary vote) and a vote for Johnson is a vote for Hillary (because it removes a Trump vote).
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I'm not a fan of Johnson as I find him to be a fraud and nothing more than a republican in the wrong party, but how exactly is he an isolationist?
 
jet57 said:
Hillary runs rings around Trump: he didn't answer a single question.

I don't like Hillary, but she's not Trump and that's all that matters when it comes to the vote.
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He really did not answer one question and he looked like a little bitch when he blushed about Putin saying nice things about him.
 
What I believe I saw:

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Hillary fielded more, harder, and wider-ranging questions - and did O.K.

Trump fielded fewer, less technical, and easier questions - and did less well.

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Hillary addressed the questions more directly.

Trump often went off on Obama & Hillary bashing, deflecting.

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Hillary still comes-off as lawyerly and insincere.

Trump still comes off as salesman-like, selling unsupported hype that often was not well thought out.

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Hillary struck me as more knowledgeable and detailed.

Trump struck me as less able to demonstrate detailed knowledge.

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I don't like either of them, but will give the edge to Hillary here.

But this event shows just how much baggage she has got - and it's a lot! And it also demonstrated how plastic and uninspiring she can be. There's nothing there at all to excite. Her attempt at closing the discussion on a rallying high-note was painful as hell. We can all see she hasn't *got it*, and is trying hard but falling flat. She has anti-je ne sais quoi!

Trump is stilling selling, avoiding, and lacking in substance in many instances. Occasionally though, he does seem to have interesting creative ideas. Other times he seems delusional in his solutions, to say nothing of lacking in Constitutionality. He never adequately explains exactly how will accomplish his grand ideas, and that's a big problem for me. But he is alpha-male, spontaneous, and can occasionally excite and inspire. He is take-charge, and I think we find that appealing in our leaders. As a man, male leaders just seem to usually resonate better with me, as un-PC as that sounds, and I make no excuses for it.

But n the end, Hillary struck me as the most technically correct and grounded, as unlikable as she is. I'm voting for competence firstly, charisma secondly. So of this Hobson's choice, I'm still in her camp I suppose - begrudgingly at that.
 
TheGoverness said:
And to Trump supporters, I'm giving my vote to Hillary.

Which one is it?
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Yeah, that's the real question isn't it? Every vote that diverts from Hillary, goes to Trump: that's how Al Gore got beat in 2000 by that stupid Ralph Nader.

So, if you want Trump, throw your vote away. But when Trump wins - don't say you didn't vote for him.
 
Dion said:
He really did not answer one question and he looked like a little bitch when he blushed about Putin saying nice things about him.
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Unquestionably. Trump's a big fat spoiled baby. A priss-pants. He is not a real man. I could punch him once and he'd probably cry.
 
Chomsky said:
What I believe I saw:

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Hillary fielded more, harder, and wider-ranging questions - and did O.K.

Trump fielded fewer, less technical, and easier questions - and did less well.

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Hillary addressed the questions more directly.

Trump often went off on Obama & Hillary bashing, deflecting.

--

Hillary still comes-off as lawyerly and insincere.

Trump still comes off as salesman-like, selling unsupported hype that often was not well thought out.

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Hillary struck me as more knowledgeable and detailed.

Trump struck me as less able to demonstrate detailed knowledge.

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I don't like either of them, but will give the edge to Hillary here.

But this event shows just how much baggage she has got - and it's a lot! And it also demonstrated how plastic and uninspiring she can be. There's nothing there at all to excite. Her attempt at closing the discussion on a rallying high-note was painful as hell. We can all see she hasn't *got it*, and is trying hard but falling flat. She has anti-je ne sais quoi!

Trump is stilling selling, avoiding, and lacking in substance in many instances. Occasionally though, he does seem to have interesting creative ideas. Other times he seems delusional in his solutions, to say nothing of lacking in Constitutionality. He never adequately explains exactly how will accomplish his grand ideas, and that's a big problem for me. But he is alpha-male, spontaneous, and can occasionally excite and inspire. He is take-charge, and I think we find that appealing in our leaders. As a man, male leaders just seem to usually resonate better with me, as un-PC as that sounds, and I make no excuses for it.

But n the end, Hillary struck me as the most technically correct and grounded, as unlikable as she is. I'm voting for competence firstly, charisma secondly. So of this Hobson's choice, I'm still in her camp I suppose - begrudgingly at that.
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Ditto-ditto.
 
Dion said:
He really did not answer one question and he looked like a little bitch when he blushed about Putin saying nice things about him.
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Yeah, the guy's hubris is just incredible: he's gotta be doin crack to think that he has the juice to be president.

The price on his ties will go up though: that's all that matters to him, and with workers in Bangladesh making .50 cents a day to make 'em does mean that Trump will still be on easy street.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Unquestionably. Trump's a big fat spoiled baby. A priss-pants. He is not a real man. I could punch him once and he'd probably cry.
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Exactly!
 
jet57 said:
Yeah, that's the real question isn't it? Every vote that diverts from Hillary, goes to Trump: that's how Al Gore got beat in 2000 by that stupid Ralph Nader.

So, if you want Trump, throw your vote away. But when Trump wins - don't say you didn't vote for him.
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Dude, I live in Texas. Texas is not a swing state. And not only that, Texas is a red state.

The electoral colege votes are without a doubt going to Trump, even if I decided to vote for Hillary.

So instead of voting for her, I'd rather vote my conscience.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
Ditto-ditto.
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What did you think of my conjuring-up the term: "anti-je ne sais quoi" ???

I have no idea if it's legit, but I swear it describes HRC perfectly!

It was either that, or: "anti-'it' girl"! :lamo

I swear she has the personality of a piece of lint, and the sincerity of a Vegas hooker.
 
Chomsky said:
What did you think of my conjuring-up the term: "anti-je ne sais quoi" ???

I have no idea if it's legit, but I swear it describes HRC perfectly!

It was either that, or: "anti-'it' girl"! :lamo

I swear she has the personality of a piece of lint, and the sincerity of a Vegas hooker.
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Her and Trump are probably giving each other high-fives back-stage.
 
TheGoverness said:
Dude, I live in Texas. Texas is not a swing state. And not only that, Texas is a red state.

The electoral colege votes are without a doubt going to Trump, even if I decided to vote for Hillary.

So instead of voting for her, I'd rather vote my conscience.
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I hear you yet I did read that Texas has a small chance to go blue. Is there any substance to that report?
 
jet57 said:
So, you're giving your vote to Trump then.

Okay
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she's in Texas-get a clue. If I lived in a state where its obvious one or the other was going to win, I'd vote for Johnson too
 
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