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Can a male understand what it's like to be a female?

Can a male understand what it's like to be a female?

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radcen said:
Now I really call B.S. Your original question was fine. Then you made the post about pregnancy and periods and so on, as if women's experiences are somehow oh so special and worse than men's experiences could ever be. That IS bashing men, as it implies men always have it easier at all times. Women's issues and experiences aren't always worse or always better, they're just different, which was the sole point of my post... the one that seems to have fueled your :2mad:.

And here's why these types of threads are dumb before they even start: No one knows what anyone else goes through. No one. Ever. Anywhere. Even people of the same demographic don't know what other who look like them on the outside go through for a variety of factors.
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Don't assume I'm :2mad:

I'm having a great day.

I'm just asking questions.

And actually - I agree with this part of what you say:
No one knows what anyone else goes through. No one. Ever. Anywhere.
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But when I asked if a white person could know what it's like to be a black person, an awful lot of people said "yes".
(then plenty went on racist as sh_t rants...but that's not the point)

I have a wife, and two daughters.

Women are a friggin mystery. Plus, my wife is heading into menopause....:shock:

Any guy who has experienced a menopausal female knows that there's no way in hell to know what it's like to be a female.

Logic and rational thinking is about as far away as the next galaxy.
 
Generally? Maybe. Exactly?

Not possible...unless a male were born a female and then had a sex change.

I cannot even understand completely what it is like to be another male (as everyone is different)...let alone a female.
 
I don't have to understand what it is like to be a female, but after almost 40 years of marriage, there is one undeniable certainty.

You can win a argument with the wife and go without supper.

Or, you can fold up like a lawn chair and eat like a king!
 
countryboy said:
Do you not side with Democrats in most instances?
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Assuming she did as you say, that would make her centrist, not "leftest".

As a male member of a 90% female profession, I've seen many instances of differential treatment of people based on gender, so I might make a more educated guess than most men, but I'd never claim to know.
 
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RetiredUSN said:
I don't have to understand what it is like to be a female, but after almost 40 years of marriage, there is one undeniable certainty.

You can win a argument with the wife and go without supper.

Or, you can fold up like a lawn chair and eat like a king!
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That might be true for your generation, but these days most men don't lose dinner since most women don't cook.
 
Dragonfly said:
Don't assume I'm :2mad:

I'm having a great day.

I'm just asking questions.

And actually - I agree with this part of what you say:


But when I asked if a white person could know what it's like to be a black person, an awful lot of people said "yes".
(then plenty went on racist as sh_t rants...but that's not the point)

I have a wife, and two daughters.

Women are a friggin mystery. Plus, my wife is heading into menopause....:shock:

Any guy who has experienced a menopausal female knows that there's no way in hell to know what it's like to be a female.

Logic and rational thinking is about as far away as the next galaxy.
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Are you male? I always presumed you were female. Not that there's anything wrong with being that, of course. My apologies.

Anyway, re the race question you mentioned from the other thread... those people were incorrect. I believe people can empathize, and maybe have some notion, but one can never truly *know*.
 
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Henrin said:
That might be true for your generation, but these days most men don't lose dinner since most women don't cook.
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Here we go again with the "Women don't cook" argument. :roll:
 
TheGoverness said:
Here we go again with the "Women don't cook" argument. :roll:
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Well at least men can learn how to cook so they don't have to depend on women. And learn how to clean, and sew and shop. Hey, what are women good at, again? I know there are a few divorced ladies out there, looking for affection but not looking to remarry. Some young gentleman or lady is gonna hit the jackpot and then regret it when they get a depression-era STD!
 
TheGoverness said:
Here we go again with the "Women don't cook" argument. :roll:
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Well, people from my generation male or female many times struggle with following a recipe. That just goes to show you how badly they can't cook.
 
I'm a father of daughters and the grandfather of an awesome 11 year old girl.
Been married twice, and have known many wonderful lovers over the years, and quite a few not so wonderful.

I'm pretty sure I know what's going on with females, though probably no more and no less than any other human being of any gender.

A few sage bits of advice I have heard (and/or dispensed) over the years:

* Women; can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em.

* Treat a lady like a whore and treat a whore like a lady. It keeps them both off balance.

* Girls all look alike when you turn them upside-down.

* Men are from Mars, women ought to be in the kitchen, fixing me a sandwich.

* Always agree with everything a lady says, especially if she's holding a gun on you.

* It's not about the nail.

* If she can outrun you, out-work you, shoot a gun, and change her own flat tire, she's probably from Texas.

* Q - What's the difference between Madonna and the Statue Of Liberty?
A - Not everybody's been up in the Statue Of Liberty.

Okay, I'm gonna shut up now.
:think:
 
Manc Skipper said:
Assuming she did as you say, that would make her centrist, not "leftest".

As a male member of a 90% female profession, I've seen many instances of differential treatment of people based on gender, so I might make a more educated guess than most men, but I'd never claim to know.
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Dragonfly is a he. I think he even identifies as a man. ;) Furthermore, if you lean left on 99.9% of issues, you're a leftist. ;);)
 
Dragonfly said:
Don't assume I'm :2mad:

I'm having a great day.

I'm just asking questions.

And actually - I agree with this part of what you say:


But when I asked if a white person could know what it's like to be a black person, an awful lot of people said "yes".
(then plenty went on racist as sh_t rants...but that's not the point)

I have a wife, and two daughters.

Women are a friggin mystery. Plus, my wife is heading into menopause....:shock:

Any guy who has experienced a menopausal female knows that there's no way in hell to know what it's like to be a female.

Logic and rational thinking is about as far away as the next galaxy.
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I call it "mental pause". It's a very dangerous time. Men have been killed for not sharing their opinion when warned that their opinion was not wanted except when it is needed and to shut the hell because men just make it worse because men never want to listen and if men really cared we'd talk about it but we obviously don't care and if we did we'd keep our opinions to ourselves. :shock:
 
Risky Thicket said:
I call it "mental pause". It's a very dangerous time. Men have been killed for not sharing their opinion when warned that their opinion was not wanted except when it is needed and to shut the hell because men just make it worse because men never want to listen and if men really cared we'd talk about it but we obviously don't care and if we did we'd keep our opinions to ourselves. :shock:
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I wonder if that means men do have the same opinion as women at the same time as not having the same opinion as women sometimes.

:joke:
 
Dragonfly said:
Simple question. What say you?
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Can a female understand what it's like to be male?

Any other "simple" (i.e. silly and heavily loaded) questions we'd all like to get off of our chests while we're at this? :roll:
 
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I thought Dragonfly was female too...
 
Dragonfly said:
Women give birth. Do men?
Women can get pregnant. Can men?
Do men get periods?
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Do women have to worry about the crippling pain (or potential for permanent damage to reproductive function) that goes along with taking a shot to the gonads?

Have women traditional been placed under the social burden of "providing" for a family, or labeled as "losers" when unable to do so to the extent which society deems acceptable?

Do men have sexualized breasts?
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Ummm... Yeah?

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How have women been treated over the centuries compared to men?
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Have women spent millennia serving as expendable cannon fodder in the endless wars which mark human history?

Traditionally, life hasn't been easy for anyone, male or female. Wealth was the deciding factor in alleviating that state of affairs, not sex.

How are women treated in the work place compared to men?
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Unless they do something to piss off both groups, women in the workplace tend to be coddled somewhat by men, who generally have lower expectations of them. They are, likewise, sometimes mercilessly picked apart by other females, who can have a tendency to view them as competition. The reverse is also true for men (i.e. females tend to be easier on them than other males).

In point of fact, men can be rather cruel to one another when they feel that someone of their sex fails to "measure up" to the standards of masculinity or competency which they expect.

How are women treated in many situations compared to men?
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Separate, but more or less equal in most things. As noted above, men get their own version of the same treatment.

Do you think men can understand that?
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Do you think women can understand the reverse?

Gender roles? How society views what a woman "should be" ? How women are treated if they don't conform to those roles and models?
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Again, why are you pretending like this only applies to women?
 
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Celebrity said:
I wonder if that means men do have the same opinion as women at the same time as not having the same opinion as women sometimes.

:joke:
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Exactly! Maybe. They'll let us know. Sometimes.
 
Dragonfly said:
I'm not surprised at all, but I do think it's quite odd how so many people chose to twist simple questions and statements into so many unintended things.

People are making assumptions that aren't true.
People are twisting intentions that were never there.
People are just making crap up from thin air.

It's not surprising. It's just odd.

I could have easily asked if a female can know what it's like to be a male.
I didn't. F'n sue me.

That doesn't mean there's some nefarious subliminal plot to undermine men. :roll: Get a grip people.

Feel free to start your own poll if you don't like the one I started, but don't make baseless and ridiculous assumptions as to what the question "means".

Answer it. Or don't. Just don't twist things into something they're never intended to be and then get belligerent about it.
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:roll:

Please. The intent behind this thread is so transparent, you might as well have built the thing from crystal.

i.e.

"Look at me, look at me! You can tell that I understand teh wimminz because I imply that men are somehow less 'worthy' by way of comparison! Please, shower my ego with praise and fellatiation because I am so enlightened!!"

It's a rather tired and droll tactic (extraordinarily common among the ranks of the 'pop-Left') to say the least...
 
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Gathomas88 said:
Do women have to worry about the crippling pain (or potential for permanent damage to reproductive function) that goes along with taking a shot to the gonads?
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How about these:

Men have to deal with a society that actively promotes women hitting men, a society that actively promotes kicking them in the testicles even if it is well known it causes serious damage, castrating them if they do certain crimes, active and constant promotion from the medical community to mutilate them as newborns, a society that shows absolutely zero regard for their reproductive rights, and finally treats them like filth in the family court.

Slapping a man is fine, kicking a man is fine. destroying the function of their sexual organs is fine, forcing him into parenthood is fine, making him do all the work in family court while the woman just sits there is fine. All of this is fine and none of it is fine for women. Abortion is legal, women can give up their child at the hospital without even saying anything about the man, FGM is banned, and hitting women under any situation whatsoever is frowned on.

I wonder if he still wants to play that game of his.
 
Gathomas88 said:
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Please. The intent behind this thread is so transparent, you might as well have built the thing from crystal.

i.e.

"Look at me, look at me! You can tell that I understand teh wimminz because I imply that men are somehow less 'worthy' by way of comparison! Please, shower my ego with praise and fellatiation because I am so enlightened!!"

It's a rather tired and droll tactic (extraordinarily common to the 'pop-Left') to say the least...
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I didn't get that message at all from the OP, but then I'm not hypersensitive about the topic.
 
Manc Skipper said:
I didn't get that message at all from the OP, but then I'm not hypersensitive about the topic.
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Then you're either deliberately playing stupid, or simply not thinking. That's really all there is to it.

No one asks these sorts of heavily loaded questions with innocent intent in mind.

Example:

"Can Atheists understand what it's like to be religious? Can they understand what it's like NOT to live a bleak, and pointless, self-imposed nihilistic existence?"

"What? I was just asking... *Innocent whistling*"

Yeah, right. :roll:

If nothing else, the general tone of the OP, and the attitude of its poster in subsequent posts, speaks VOLUMES concerning their general view of men and women alike. That view is more than a bit skewed and self-righteous to say the least.
 
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Men and women have much more in common than not so it's obvious we understand each other pretty well. However, in the detail resides the uncertainty. Experience is the best teacher and since men will never experience what it is to be a women and vice versa we can not understand each other completely. That covers our biology as well as our social being.
 
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