Should there be a maximum voting age limit?

radcen said:

So, basically, you want to artificially socially engineer society to your liking by barring what you see as less desirable demographics from voting.

No.

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cpwill said:

In your welcome thread, you say you went to a nationally rated college. That's acceptably impressive - a good education is generally a good sign of intelligence.


Turtle, can you match the educational experience of someone who went to a nationally rated college?

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Ganapathy said:

TurtleDude said:

almost all colleges are Nationally rated. some good, some average, some bad. Mine does pretty well.

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How does it compare to the University of Michigan?

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TheGoverness said:

So what you're basically saying here is that you want to prevent individuals that disagree with you from having the ability to vote.

Nobody should be prevented from voting or be restricted from it just because they don't agree with you politically. That would defeat the point of living in a democracy if some are unable to exercise their right to vote.

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cpwill said:

:mrgreen:

I liked this post for unintentional, hilarious irony.

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Ganapathy said:

How does it compare to the University of Michigan?

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Ganapathy said:

How does it compare to the University of Michigan?

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Hari Seldon said:

I was just reading about the colleges with the best value. Michigan came in 25th I believe, right behind Harvard. A lot of California schools in the list. I think it was on MSN.

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TheGoverness said:

So what you're basically saying here is that you want to prevent individuals that disagree with you from having the ability to vote. .............~

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Ganapathy said:

Democracy doesn't mean that everybody should get a right to vote. Democracy means "rule of the people" in Greek, and it occurs when the people's will is fulfilled by the government. In order to achieve democracy, radical, reactionary voices need to be silenced so that the views of the people as a whole, many of whom have been de-facto denied suffrage or who are too afraid to speak up, can be fully heard.

I personally don't consider the usa to be a fully functioning democracy. It will not be a true democracy until the full will of the people is the ruling power in the land. Right now, the will of the people is being corrupted and distorted by organizations such as Fox News and the Koch Brothers, and by the fact that many old white retirees votes while younger voters are either at work or college.

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Ganapathy said:

There is a major difference between the regressive, less educated, and less tolerant older generations, and the forward thinking, well informed, and socially tolerant younger generations in the United States.

Older people are far less likely to support basic rights such as the right for a woman to choose, the rights of LGBTQ couples to marry, or the right of people of color to peacefully protest the systematic racism in this country. Voters under 40 often tend to be far less bigoted, and believe in freedom for all citizens, not just white males.

Older voters are far more likely to support policies which will cause extreme harm to the environment, this country, and the world as a whole. Meanwhile, more educated younger voters often choose to implement policies which value the world we live in over the making of a quick buck or two, such as a ban on fracking, a ban on nuclear power, and a focus on renewable energy.

Older voters are far more likely to support imperialistic wars in Mideastern countries which pose no threat to the USA, as well as support the genocidal murder of Palestinian children by the illegal state of Israel. Younger voters understand the importance of peace in this world, and are far less likely to provoke a meaningless war overseas or support enemies of justice such as Israel, Turkey or Colombia.

In fact, an argument can be made that not having a maximum voting age kills 32,000 a year. Older white men make up the majority of gun owners in this country, and even as the rest of the country seeks to end meaningless violence such as the massacres in Orlando or Dallas, old white men who treat guns as more precious than the lives of innocent children are allowed to vote, and by voting, they stall any common sense gun reform that can be made in the usa. These geriatric republicans think that people need guns 'to defend" themselves, not knowing that having a gun makes it 50 times more likely for you to be shot, and that the vast majority of gun violence is committed by people who bought their guns legally.

I personally believe that a maximum voting age limit of 65 should be immediately implemented. This country is on the right path, and the older, less intelligent white men who hold this country back are slowly but surely dying out. However, progress needs to be made faster if the USA does not wish to be embroiled in new foreign wars, be known for its rampant homophobia and systematic racism, and lose 80 people a day to gun violence within the next ten or twenty years.

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Ganapathy said:

In order to achieve democracy, radical, reactionary voices need to be silenced so that the views of the people as a whole, many of whom have been de-facto denied suffrage or who are too afraid to speak up, can be fully heard.

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I personally don't consider the usa to be a fully functioning democracy. It will not be a true democracy until the full will of the people is the ruling power in the land. Right now, the will of the people is being corrupted and distorted by organizations such as Fox News and the Koch Brothers, and by the fact that many old white retirees votes while younger voters are either at work or college.

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TurtleDude said:

best value isn't the same as best but I believe you are right. Miami U of Ohio (the "Harvard of the Midwest") often rates way up on that scale

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Ganapathy said:

There is a major difference between the regressive, less educated, and less tolerant older generations, and the forward thinking, well informed, and socially tolerant younger generations in the United States.

Older people are far less likely to support basic rights such as the right for a woman to choose, the rights of LGBTQ couples to marry, or the right of people of color to peacefully protest the systematic racism in this country. Voters under 40 often tend to be far less bigoted, and believe in freedom for all citizens, not just white males.

Older voters are far more likely to support policies which will cause extreme harm to the environment, this country, and the world as a whole. Meanwhile, more educated younger voters often choose to implement policies which value the world we live in over the making of a quick buck or two, such as a ban on fracking, a ban on nuclear power, and a focus on renewable energy.

Older voters are far more likely to support imperialistic wars in Mideastern countries which pose no threat to the USA, as well as support the genocidal murder of Palestinian children by the illegal state of Israel. Younger voters understand the importance of peace in this world, and are far less likely to provoke a meaningless war overseas or support enemies of justice such as Israel, Turkey or Colombia.

In fact, an argument can be made that not having a maximum voting age kills 32,000 a year. Older white men make up the majority of gun owners in this country, and even as the rest of the country seeks to end meaningless violence such as the massacres in Orlando or Dallas, old white men who treat guns as more precious than the lives of innocent children are allowed to vote, and by voting, they stall any common sense gun reform that can be made in the usa. These geriatric republicans think that people need guns 'to defend" themselves, not knowing that having a gun makes it 50 times more likely for you to be shot, and that the vast majority of gun violence is committed by people who bought their guns legally.

I personally believe that a maximum voting age limit of 65 should be immediately implemented. This country is on the right path, and the older, less intelligent white men who hold this country back are slowly but surely dying out. However, progress needs to be made faster if the USA does not wish to be embroiled in new foreign wars, be known for its rampant homophobia and systematic racism, and lose 80 people a day to gun violence within the next ten or twenty years.

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BrewerBob said:

Hell, why not just cut to the chase and ban anyone from voting who doesn't agree with you?

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TheGoverness said:

What you are advocating for would not 'achive democracy' in the slightest. The only thing you'd be achiving is preventing certain groups of people from being able to vote for which representatives they want in government because they disagree with you politically.

That's censorship, not democracy. If anything it'd be "democracy" in name only; not in practice.

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So it won't be a "true" democracy until you can prevent certain individuals from being able to vote. I'm sorry, but do you even hear yourself?

In what world would that be considered a democracy?

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BrewerBob said:

Hell, why not just cut to the chase and ban anyone from voting who doesn't agree with you?

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DiAnna said:

You may as well retitle your poll to "At What Age Should We Revoke the Constitutional Rights of American Citizens?" Or "Should There Be an IQ Test Before Allowing Adult Americans to Vote?" or "At What Age Should Mandatory Euthanasia be Performed to Thin Out the Ideologically-Impaired Herd?"

Since you didn't bother to include a "None of the above" option in your completely insulting, ill-informed, stereotyped broad-brush of citizens beyond your own generation, I didn't vote.

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cpwill said:

:shrug: like driving, require a regular test. People age and maintain/lose their capability at different rates, so let a test of that capability filter them out as necessary.

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Fledermaus said:

I vote we do that for EVERYONE then.....

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Ganapathy said:

There is a major difference between the regressive, less educated, and less tolerant older generations, and the forward thinking, well informed, and socially tolerant younger generations in the United States.

Older people are far less likely to support basic rights such as the right for a woman to choose, the rights of LGBTQ couples to marry, or the right of people of color to peacefully protest the systematic racism in this country. Voters under 40 often tend to be far less bigoted, and believe in freedom for all citizens, not just white males.

Older voters are far more likely to support policies which will cause extreme harm to the environment, this country, and the world as a whole. Meanwhile, more educated younger voters often choose to implement policies which value the world we live in over the making of a quick buck or two, such as a ban on fracking, a ban on nuclear power, and a focus on renewable energy.

Older voters are far more likely to support imperialistic wars in Mideastern countries which pose no threat to the USA, as well as support the genocidal murder of Palestinian children by the illegal state of Israel. Younger voters understand the importance of peace in this world, and are far less likely to provoke a meaningless war overseas or support enemies of justice such as Israel, Turkey or Colombia.

In fact, an argument can be made that not having a maximum voting age kills 32,000 a year. Older white men make up the majority of gun owners in this country, and even as the rest of the country seeks to end meaningless violence such as the massacres in Orlando or Dallas, old white men who treat guns as more precious than the lives of innocent children are allowed to vote, and by voting, they stall any common sense gun reform that can be made in the usa. These geriatric republicans think that people need guns 'to defend" themselves, not knowing that having a gun makes it 50 times more likely for you to be shot, and that the vast majority of gun violence is committed by people who bought their guns legally.

I personally believe that a maximum voting age limit of 65 should be immediately implemented. This country is on the right path, and the older, less intelligent white men who hold this country back are slowly but surely dying out. However, progress needs to be made faster if the USA does not wish to be embroiled in new foreign wars, be known for its rampant homophobia and systematic racism, and lose 80 people a day to gun violence within the next ten or twenty years.

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Ganapathy said:

There is a major difference between the regressive, less educated, and less tolerant older generations, and the forward thinking, well informed, and socially tolerant younger generations in the United States.

Older people are far less likely to support basic rights such as the right for a woman to choose, the rights of LGBTQ couples to marry, or the right of people of color to peacefully protest the systematic racism in this country. Voters under 40 often tend to be far less bigoted, and believe in freedom for all citizens, not just white males.

Older voters are far more likely to support policies which will cause extreme harm to the environment, this country, and the world as a whole. Meanwhile, more educated younger voters often choose to implement policies which value the world we live in over the making of a quick buck or two, such as a ban on fracking, a ban on nuclear power, and a focus on renewable energy.

Older voters are far more likely to support imperialistic wars in Mideastern countries which pose no threat to the USA, as well as support the genocidal murder of Palestinian children by the illegal state of Israel. Younger voters understand the importance of peace in this world, and are far less likely to provoke a meaningless war overseas or support enemies of justice such as Israel, Turkey or Colombia.

In fact, an argument can be made that not having a maximum voting age kills 32,000 a year. Older white men make up the majority of gun owners in this country, and even as the rest of the country seeks to end meaningless violence such as the massacres in Orlando or Dallas, old white men who treat guns as more precious than the lives of innocent children are allowed to vote, and by voting, they stall any common sense gun reform that can be made in the usa. These geriatric republicans think that people need guns 'to defend" themselves, not knowing that having a gun makes it 50 times more likely for you to be shot, and that the vast majority of gun violence is committed by people who bought their guns legally.

I personally believe that a maximum voting age limit of 65 should be immediately implemented. This country is on the right path, and the older, less intelligent white men who hold this country back are slowly but surely dying out. However, progress needs to be made faster if the USA does not wish to be embroiled in new foreign wars, be known for its rampant homophobia and systematic racism, and lose 80 people a day to gun violence within the next ten or twenty years.

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