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Your view on "political correctness" ?

Your views on political correctness

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Re: Your view on "political correctness" ?

Deuce said:
Nobody is "silencing" them. Just calling them assholes.

If the words you speak make people call you an asshole, it's possible that you're an asshole.
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Who cares if there assholes? They should still be allowed to say whatever the hell they please. And I've definitely seen PC-advocates prevent certain people from speaking at events, more specifically in colleges, because they disagreed with their opinions, or the fact that they aren't 'politically correct' or offensive to others. I've seen this happen so many times now, it's crazy.
 
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I think political correctness is overall a negative thing but there is nothing wrong with just being polite.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Who cares if there assholes? They should still be allowed to say whatever the hell they please. And I've definitely seen PC-advocates prevent certain people from speaking at events, more specifically in colleges, because they disagreed with their opinions, or the fact that they aren't 'politically correct' or offensive to others. I've seen this happen so many times now, it's crazy.
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They are allowed. Who said they aren't allowed? They say asshole things. I call them an asshole.

Since when do you have a first amendment right to use my stage?
 
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Deuce said:
They are allowed. Who said they aren't allowed? They say asshole things. I call them an asshole.

Since when do you have a first amendment right to use my stage?
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I said PC-people have been silencing certain individuals from speaking on platforms such as events, debates, etc., because they find their speech not politically correct. They are allowed to speak, but people are preventing them from speaking. And of course you have the right to call those people assholes, never was I against that.

And if it's YOUR platform then YOU get to make the decisions for who speaks, because it's yours. That's totally fine. But in a public type of forum or platform, no one gets to decide who can and can't speak.
 
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TheGoverness said:
Who cares if there assholes? They should still be allowed to say whatever the hell they please. And I've definitely seen PC-advocates prevent certain people from speaking at events, more specifically in colleges, because they disagreed with their opinions, or the fact that they aren't 'politically correct' or offensive to others. I've seen this happen so many times now, it's crazy.
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That is why there are more than a few comedians that REFUSE to perform at college campuses.

Chris Rock and Bill Mehr(sp) are two that come to mind immediately.
 
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RetiredNSmilin said:
That is why there are more than a few comedians that REFUSE to perform at college campuses.

Chris Rock and Bill Mehr(sp) are two that come to mind immediately.
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Yeah, those are some pretty good and noteworthy examples.
 
Like unions, socialism, communism, ect...PC is good in it's concept/premise but horrible in implementation. For that reason, I chose negative. People have been perfectly capable of not being assholes before the PC movement began, so that's not really what it's all about.

The PC culture is what is currently ruining our colleges and ending the ability of people to take an opposing POV and turn it around and examine it for validity, before it's rejected or accepted. It's generally emotionally driven, not logically based.

That aside, sometimes it's appropriate to be an asshole. It's just strange to think that we can properly function as humans without some ass-kickers out there that don't have much time to consider people's feelings because they're too busy getting actually stuff done.
 
X Factor said:
Whatever personal definition you apply to the concept of political correctness (of course the PC term for PC is "culturally sensitive"), how do you feel about it generally speaking?

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It's a positive thing.
Well intentioned but mostly silly and/or unnecessary.
It's actually a negative thing.
Can be either positive or negative depending on the context or intent
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I have friends from Texas. They can't help it and I try very hard never to mention it or hold it against them. Yeah, that's PC but sometimes it is a good thing to be considerate of the feelings of others.
 
X Factor said:
Often times, though, PC is taking offense at inoffensive things. PC's not about calling out things that are actually offensive. It's not being PC to obect to calling a woman a slut, for example, but it could be PC to object" innocuous terms like "housewife" (to borrow from another thread in this subforum) or "secretary".
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but what we label PC changes as the value we place on the group or behavior changes. Today's innocuous term can be tomorrow's widely condemned hate speech

Your example is fitting because with sexual liberation a lot of women today take pride in being called slut. To them it's PC to whine about it, while 50 years ago it was slander, 150 years ago it was a duel worthy offense

10 years ago it was so common to hear "that's gay" that it was inescapable and it was *because* the group it demeaned was disliked. Any who objected to this were branded PC (among other things), but it turns out that constantly being associated with everything that sucks in life took a very real negative toll for many

if no one is 'PC' then nothing changes for the better either
 
Risky Thicket said:
I have friends from Texas. They can't help it and I try very hard never to mention it or hold it against them. Yeah, that's PC but sometimes it is a good thing to be considerate of the feelings of others.
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Don't feel you need to do me any favors, though. I'm actually not ashamed of the state in which I live. I most definitely belong here and but I would agree that you'd ****ing hate it.
 
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BrewerBob said:
I am in general in favor of it. Being PC usually is no more than having common courtesy. That said, I agree it is getting out of hand in some places, such as on college campuses. The whole "safe space" thing is heading in a bad direction. Colleges are supposed to be places where your ideas and beliefs are challenged and where you are exposed to people with differing points of view, even ones you might find offensive.
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There's a difference between an exchange of ideas and research and just worthless insults. Plenty on this forum don't get the difference, but at least here we have an ignore function. The point of carving out a "safe space" where there's no such easy out is to advertise to others "This is what we are, if you don't like it, leave us the **** alone"
 
chromium said:
There's a difference between an exchange of ideas and research and just worthless insults. Plenty on this forum don't get the difference, but at least here we have an ignore function. The point of carving out a "safe space" where there's no such easy out is to advertise to others "This is what we are, if you don't like it, leave us the **** alone"
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You can ignore people in real life too. Not that hard, just bass boost some Dr. Dre or something, or just get on with your business.
 
chromium said:
There's a difference between an exchange of ideas and research and just worthless insults. Plenty on this forum don't get the difference, but at least here we have an ignore function. The point of carving out a "safe space" where there's no such easy out is to advertise to others "This is what we are, if you don't like it, leave us the **** alone"
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Then go home and leave colleges to those who want to actually be intellectually challenged.
 
TheGoverness said:
People aren't against PC because they don't want to be criticised, it's the fact that they don't want to be silenced or have to change their words in order to not offended a certain group of people.
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in other words, they want to be able to be complete assholes with no repurcussions whatsoever. Well i happen to think the KKK or westboro should be fired or risk their faces being pummeled when they protest at funerals. It would be exactly what they deserve

my god just look at the list you dismissed as "PC", and he's dead accurate. You really think the problem is with the offended if you act like it's 1950 and you can run around calling everyone fag and laugh about beating your wife
 
Deuce said:
My view is that people who whine about political correctness are just giant babies who are really mad that people are calling them assholes for spouting asshole things.
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If reality offends you, that's your problem. PC is bad because it denies this.
 
X Factor said:
Don't feel you need to do me any favors, though. I'm actually not ashamed of the state in which I live. I most definitely belong here and but I would agree that you'd ****ing hate it.
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X Factor...I feel it impolite to ask where someone is from.

If they are from TEXAS, they will tell you.

...and if they are not...don't embarrass them.

(saw that in a movie once...I like it!)
 
X Factor said:
Whatever personal definition you apply to the concept of political correctness (of course the PC term for PC is "culturally sensitive"), how do you feel about it generally speaking?

choices will be (as near as I can remember when I attach the poll).

It's a positive thing.
Well intentioned but mostly silly and/or unnecessary.
It's actually a negative thing.
Can be either positive or negative depending on the context or intent
Other
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Can be either positive or negative depending on the context or intent. Also, I think the negativity surrounding it has been completely overblown. Yes, people are going to get their panties in a bunch and overreact or use the evolving etiquette to serve a personal agenda, but that's been the case forever. And the people blowing political correctness out of proportion have typically been bigots who are angry or just embarrassed that their bigotry have been pointed out to them.
 
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TheGoverness said:
I said PC-people have been silencing certain individuals from speaking on platforms such as events, debates, etc., because they find their speech not politically correct. They are allowed to speak, but people are preventing them from speaking. And of course you have the right to call those people assholes, never was I against that.

And if it's YOUR platform then YOU get to make the decisions for who speaks, because it's yours. That's totally fine. But in a public type of forum or platform, no one gets to decide who can and can't speak.
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They aren't being prevented from speaking.

They are just not being granted the use of someone else's platform.

University events are not "public forums." It's not a free-for-all. I can't just walk into UCONN's commencement event and demand to be heard.
 
chromium said:
in other words, they want to be able to be complete assholes with no repurcussions whatsoever. Well i happen to think the KKK or westboro should be fired or risk their faces being pummeled when they protest at funerals. It would be exactly what they deserve

my god just look at the list you dismissed as "PC", and he's dead accurate. You really think the problem is with the offended if you act like it's 1950 and you can run around calling everyone fag and laugh about beating your wife
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So you support violence against another because you don't like their views or opinions? The WBC and KKK are scum but I would never want to commit violent acts against them, that would put me in the wrong. Resorting to violence is not a wise decision in any situation. Protest fine, but don't get violent.

And anybody should be allowed to say ANYTHING they please, regardless of how offensive it is. If someone wants to stand in the center of town and says horribly racist or anti-gay nonsense, then he should be allowed to do it. But you also have the right to go up at criticise him for it. Just don't try to block one another from having the ability to speak.
 
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Deuce said:
They aren't being prevented from speaking.

They are just not being granted the use of someone else's platform.

University events are not "public forums." It's not a free-for-all. I can't just walk into UCONN's commencement event and demand to be heard.
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But when someone plans an event and brings someone along to speak at a event, but they are prevented from doing so by a opposition of students, isn't that a violation of their right to speak on that platform, since they were invited?
 
Cardinal said:
Can be either positive or negative depending on the context or intent. Also, I think the negativity surrounding it has been completely overblown. Yes, people are going to get their panties in a bunch and overreact or use the evolving etiquette to serve a personal agenda, but that's been the case forever. And the people blowing political correctness out of proportion have typically been bigots who are angry or just embarrassed that their bigotry have been pointed out to them.
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^^^ Pretty much this.
 
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I find political correctness to come with good intentions (why would you want to offend people as a normal person), but has been milked in political arguments, and all other kinds of stupid crap in regular life. There are times when you don't go to extensive lengths to prove you are totally "PC", you are instantly the bigot in the room, and god forbid you argue with a privileged minority (Ask Princeton about how they treat Asians) who instantly drops the race card when they are losing, then you can't say anything because it isn't "PC". PCness should be a matter of courtesy, but should not be forcibly expected of everyone.
 
X Factor said:
Whatever personal definition you apply to the concept of political correctness (of course the PC term for PC is "culturally sensitive"), how do you feel about it generally speaking?

choices will be (as near as I can remember when I attach the poll).

It's a positive thing.
Well intentioned but mostly silly and/or unnecessary.
It's actually a negative thing.
Can be either positive or negative depending on the context or intent
Other
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Its a stupid talking point that the crass thuggish people use to try to justify their crash thuggish-ness. (you know...Trumphoids)
 
X Factor said:
Whatever personal definition you apply to the concept of political correctness (of course the PC term for PC is "culturally sensitive"), how do you feel about it generally speaking?

choices will be (as near as I can remember when I attach the poll).

It's a positive thing.
Well intentioned but mostly silly and/or unnecessary.
It's actually a negative thing.
Can be either positive or negative depending on the context or intent
Other
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Political Correctness started out as a decent idea. It was simply courtesy and using your manners. The idea behind it was to not respond to hatred with hatred, but to respond in a polite and courteous way to show people how to acts towards others. It has since devolved into stupidity. For example the following video is a PERFECT example of political correctness gone wild.



When you can't even use a simple scientific term to describe a situation such as money being spent needlessly and uselessly then yeah, its political correctness gone wild. This is why I object so much when someone calls Trump a racist when he complains about Muslims or Mexicans. They use terms incorrectly which leads to stupidity like that shown in the video above. That is what Political Correctness has become. If people were REALLY all that concerned about political correctness then they'd hold true to its ideals. Instead they use it to call others names, names that aren't even applied correctly at least half the time. That in my book, and the dictionary, is what's called being a hypocrite.
 
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