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Your opinion on the GOP candidates' insults about "little hands"

What's going on with the "my hands are bigger than yours" debate in the GOP?


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Can we imagine people like Abraham Lincoln, Dwight D. Eisenhower, or George H. W. Bush stooping to insinuating that their opponents are not well gifted in the men's equipment department? I mean...what has become of the Republican Party? Have they forgotten the very meaning of dignity?

I don't like Trump or Rubio. And while I do think Rubio has overdone it, it was Trump that started the adolescent personal insult tactic. he started it against anyone in the GOP field who he saw as a threat to his nomination, then screamed bloody murder if anyone responded in kind to him.
 
I picked #2, though #s 1 & 2 both apply.

It is not dignified. It is juvenile. But, in spite of what everyone says about not liking and/or falling for negative campaigning, people like and/or fall for negative campaigning. It just is, and this is just a form of negative campaigning, and it's being done because it works.

I attended one of Trumps first rallies in an outdoor football stadium....just to hear what he was all about. Once the juvenile insults began against his closest competitors, I tuned him out. I would hate to imagine his behavior as president. He needs a competent handler to prevent him from saying the first studid thing that pops into his mind...such as: "I respect Vladimer Putin".
 
It was either that or resort to "I know you are, but what am I!"

If you look at the intelligence of the people they are trying to appeal to, this is high brow argumentation.

Remember Trump loves the poorly educated and he is relying on their support.

Which is also why he is drawing many democrats.
 
trump basically laughed it off and, as usual, made himself seem like the king of LOLville and everyone else seem like stiff prudes.

this election is hilarious, but trump's positions on the issues are deadly serious, and that's why i voted for him in the florida primary.
 
John Adams: Alexander Hamilton was a "bastard brat" and had "a superabundance of secretions which he could not find whores enough to draw off." (Ron Chernow).



But to be fair, that was in a private letter, not a public statement.
 
Can we imagine people like Abraham Lincoln, Dwight D. Eisenhower, or George H. W. Bush stooping to insinuating that their opponents are not well gifted in the men's equipment department? I mean...what has become of the Republican Party? Have they forgotten the very meaning of dignity?
I would say it is Rubio responding in kind to Trump's insults.It was probably a low blow on Rubio's part because he knew Trump was probably sensitive about his small hands.


Spy Magazine vs. Donald Trump: Stories From the Archives | Vanity Fair
I took to referring to him as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination. Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Which I can only assume gave him fits.
 
So jumpy you didn't even read the top line.
Being fired because you are a certain race falls in line with the "Government/Business/Other Official Entities.

And, you have no clue whether or not I have watched it ruin my ability to provide for my family. Since you don't know me.

I have also watched racial favoritism in hiring practices create a situation where several women were sexually abused by a law enforcement officer who didn't belong in law enforcement......... Lawsuits say CMPD chief intervened twice to help Marcus Jackson - | WBTV Charlotte

No, you haven't watched it ruin you or yours...because if you had, you would not be trying to protect the "right" of anyone - be it a person/government/business/whatever - to ruin you or yours just because they don't like what you are. You can give the Bart Simpson excuse of "you never knew me or saw me so you can't know" all you want...but you have not walked a mile in the moccasins of those who have known true discrimination all their lives.

And one more thing, on the SINGLE example you tried to provide. The problem with that, sir, is it's a SINGLE example. If you'd walked in the shoes of those who've known true discrimination, they see crap like that against them and theirs almost every day, sometimes multiple times each day...like when a black man walks into a store and all of a sudden everybody's watching him just because he's black, waiting for him to do something wrong...and if anything goes wrong, all too eager to automatically point the finger at him.

Anyone who's lived under the thumb of discrimination and prejudice knows how pervasive it is, how it spreads and covers every little nook and cranny of human interaction to the point where even the actions of the most well-meaning of people are affected and informed by prejudice no matter how hard they try to avoid it...

...but just because it is so pervasive is NO reason to just throw up one's hands and say, "Everybody's this way, so let everybody have a right to discriminate!" Because when discrimination is allowed by society and by law, when it becomes a 'right', when it's accepted and encouraged, it leads to very bad places indeed...

...or have you learned nothing from Apartheid, Jim Crow, the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, the Jewish ghettos (from long before the Nazis, btw), and every other instance where a single race, ethnicity, or religion was singled out for exclusion, imprisonment, or outright execution? Have you learned nothing from human history?
 
Its a sign of the pathetic state of today's Republican Party. Once a party that represented small government and true Conservative principles, they have been hijacked by the wacko far-right. The GOP of today represents a huge big brother government who's focus is on promoting the evangelical radical social agenda. The sorry lot of candidates in this election cycle coupled with the grade school taunts is the consequence of what the party has become.
 
No, you haven't watched it ruin you or yours...because if you had, you would not be trying to protect the "right" of anyone - be it a person/government/business/whatever - to ruin you or yours just because they don't like what you are. You can give the Bart Simpson excuse of "you never knew me or saw me so you can't know" all you want...but you have not walked a mile in the moccasins of those who have known true discrimination all their lives.
Again, the simple fact that individuals "discriminate" against you, but not an official entity, by definition, means they do not have the capability to ruin anyones life. Anyone who has the capability to ruin someone's life, falls into the "except these people" that I mentioned that you STILL keep ignoring. But this is getting too confusing to you so I'll stop trying to explain it to you.

And one more thing, on the SINGLE example you tried to provide. The problem with that, sir, is it's a SINGLE example. If you'd walked in the shoes of those who've known true discrimination, they see crap like that against them and theirs almost every day, sometimes multiple times each day...like when a black man walks into a store and all of a sudden everybody's watching him just because he's black, waiting for him to do something wrong...and if anything goes wrong, all too eager to automatically point the finger at him.
In this example you used..... nobody's life was ruined. Someone was being cautious of another person, big ****ing deal. OH LAWWWD people are watchin' me in a store, my life is ruined!!!! Get real.


Anyone who's lived under the thumb of discrimination and prejudice knows how pervasive it is, how it spreads and covers every little nook and cranny of human interaction to the point where even the actions of the most well-meaning of people are affected and informed by prejudice no matter how hard they try to avoid it...

...but just because it is so pervasive is NO reason to just throw up one's hands and say, "Everybody's this way, so let everybody have a right to discriminate!" Because when discrimination is allowed by society and by law, when it becomes a 'right', when it's accepted and encouraged, it leads to very bad places indeed...

...or have you learned nothing from Apartheid, Jim Crow, the Holocaust, the Armenian genocide, the Jewish ghettos (from long before the Nazis, btw), and every other instance where a single race, ethnicity, or religion was singled out for exclusion, imprisonment, or outright execution? Have you learned nothing from human history?
Sorry, but regardless of the emotional hand wringing you are spewing, I don't agree with the government becoming the damned "Thought Police". Thats a huge slippery slope I'd rather not deal with.
 
I would say it is Rubio responding in kind to Trump's insults.It was probably a low blow on Rubio's part because he knew Trump was probably sensitive about his small hands.


Spy Magazine vs. Donald Trump: Stories From the Archives | Vanity Fair
I took to referring to him as a “short-fingered vulgarian” in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago. To this day, I receive the occasional envelope from Trump. There is always a photo of him—generally a tear sheet from a magazine. On all of them he has circled his hand in gold Sharpie in a valiant effort to highlight the length of his fingers. I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because, to me, the fingers still look abnormally stubby. The most recent offering arrived earlier this year, before his decision to go after the Republican presidential nomination. Like the other packages, this one included a circled hand and the words, also written in gold Sharpie: “See, not so short!” I sent the picture back by return mail with a note attached, saying, “Actually, quite short.” Which I can only assume gave him fits.

Hey...you wrote something that I don't totally disagree with - whaddaya know!
 
Its a sign of the pathetic state of today's Republican Party. Once a party that represented small government and true Conservative principles, they have been hijacked by the wacko far-right. The GOP of today represents a huge big brother government who's focus is on promoting the evangelical radical social agenda. The sorry lot of candidates in this election cycle coupled with the grade school taunts is the consequence of what the party has become.

It is a good thing.

Even the democrat party isn't the party of the past.

The extremists will eventually get weeded out.

Lets hope that a few more Tip O'neill's come along in the future
 
Can we imagine people like Abraham Lincoln, Dwight D. Eisenhower, or George H. W. Bush stooping to insinuating that their opponents are not well gifted in the men's equipment department? I mean...what has become of the Republican Party? Have they forgotten the very meaning of dignity?

The GOP has suffered from an attempted hijacking by people who are politically the equivalent of mentally disturbed due to the willful adoption of a set of beliefs that cause them to be divorced from the reality that the rest of us live in and in a world of their own.

Two specific groups - right libertarians and tea party folk - decided that they have no significant public support to achieve their extremist goals so they attempted to steal the Republican Party from this who controlled it. The result, is what we see today.

And the GOP eagerly played the role of the willing conquest hoping they could manipulate and control both groups and ride the tiger to victory and then throw them away like they always do with those they use to get power.

It is their chickens coming home to roost.
 
The GOP has suffered from an attempted hijacking by people who are politically the equivalent of mentally disturbed due to the willful adoption of a set of beliefs that cause them to be divorced from the reality that the rest of us live in and in a world of their own.

Two specific groups - right libertarians and tea party folk - decided that they have no significant public support to achieve their extremist goals so they attempted to steal the Republican Party from this who controlled it. The result, is what we see today.

And the GOP eagerly played the role of the willing conquest hoping they could manipulate and control both groups and ride the tiger to victory and then throw them away like they always do with those they use to get power.

It is their chickens coming home to roost.

I strongly agree - if a group requires that its leaders believe that which is wacko, no one should be surprised at all the wacko things those leaders say as part of a political example of the law of unintended consequences.
 
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