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Should people be forced to pay for educating other people's children?[W:188]

Should Americans be forced to educate other people's children?

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Did you know that so-called public education is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto? Should the freedom-loving American people be forced to finance the educations of others who are reckless in their child-bearing?

This poll is multiple choice. One answer for the first five, and one for the second five.
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
Did you know that so-called public education is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto? Should the freedom-loving American people be forced to finance the educations of others who are reckless in their child-bearing?
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Did you know that eliminating child labor is also a plank of the Communist Manifesto? Does that mean we should let 12 year olds work in a factory?
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
Did you know that so-called public education is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto? Should the freedom-loving American people be forced to finance the educations of others who are reckless in their child-bearing?
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Absolutely, it's done now. People who have no children are taxed for public schools. Makes our country much much better.
 
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In a way, no one is taxed for someone else's children.

Government debt exceeds the cost of education. thus, we are basically just paying the interest for our OWN education.

And with progressive taxation, we are more or less paying for that education based upon how much economic value it added to our lives. People who have a low income didn't get much value from education, thus they don't pay much for it. People who make a lot of money pay a lot of taxes because their education was exceptionally valuable to them.

What I don't want is a bunch of workers who are uneducated because their parents couldn't afford education. Education shouldn't be about the parents, it should be about children and our economic need for an educated workforce. I'd much prefer to err on the side of having an overeducated workforce, than an undereducated workforce.
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
Did you know that so-called public education is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto? Should the freedom-loving American people be forced to finance the educations of others who are reckless in their child-bearing?
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*bolding mine.

If so, then it would seem even the communists were capable of a good idea!
 
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Redress said:
Did you know that eliminating child labor is also a plank of the Communist Manifesto? Does that mean we should let 12 year olds work in a factory?
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Within reasonable limits and adequate supervision, it might be a good idea. It might get some punks off the streets. However, I would NEVER force children to work in factories.
 
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Not this **** again...
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
Did you know that so-called public education is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto? Should the freedom-loving American people be forced to finance the educations of others who are reckless in their child-bearing?

This poll is multiple choice. One answer for the first five, and one for the second five.
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This is why I do not care for libertarians. "You are basically asking Should we let poor kids stay stupid and uneducated?" Let me guess you are going to suggest that the almighty market place should take care of those kids education topped with a praise be unto Ronald Reagan?
 
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Interesting that at the time of this post, most voters here (like myself) educate their kids privately, but still prefer to finance public education.

(very small sample size of only 5, however)
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
Did you know that so-called public education is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto? Should the freedom-loving American people be forced to finance the educations of others who are reckless in their child-bearing?

This poll is multiple choice. One answer for the first five, and one for the second five.
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Do you want your children to grow up amid a vast horde of uneducated barbarians?
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
Did you know that so-called public education is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto? Should the freedom-loving American people be forced to finance the educations of others who are reckless in their child-bearing?

This poll is multiple choice. One answer for the first five, and one for the second five.
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It made sense in less advanced sicieties and maybe as late as the 1980s, though, it was probably already becoming an archaic and expensive habit.
 
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ronpaulvoter said:
Did you know that so-called public education is one of the planks of the Communist Manifesto? Should the freedom-loving American people be forced to finance the educations of others who are reckless in their child-bearing?

This poll is multiple choice. One answer for the first five, and one for the second five.
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Of all the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto envisioned by Karl Marx to overturn capitalism, you picked by far the most mild to go after.
 
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Goshin said:
Do you want your children to grow up amid a vast horde of uneducated barbarians?
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Because here's the thing.

Universal education is a major investment, not a socialistic plot.

And by and large the poor youth make up a good chunk of the US military for example, without adequate education you got a whole bunch of stupid people holding a whole bunch of the worlds most powerful hardware...
 
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Chomsky said:
Interesting that at the time of this post, most voters here (like myself) educate their kids privately, but still prefer to finance public education.

(very small sample size of only 5, however)
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Sentimentality or peer group pressure?
 
Re: Should people be forced to pay for educating other people's children?

People ought to be responsible for themselves and their actions. However, children are incapable of being responsible for themselves. They ought not be punished because of their birth status and irresponsible parents. Perhaps the best people to pay for them would be those who benefit from their education. Which is society as a whole.
 
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schools are paid for locally through real estate taxes (at least public schools)

is there a better system? i dunno

what i do know, is that in so many places our education system is failing

why? imo, many reasons

funding is somewhere on the list....not sure it is THE reason

my three kids went to public schools....but i lived in a very good school district.....intentionally

i probably paid 150k extra for my house to live where i did

imo it was worth it, to get my kids access to the best schools available in the area

would public schools get better in areas if they had to compete with charter schools?

that is the 64k question.....all i know is that what we've been doing for 40-50 years isnt working

maybe it's time to try something different
 
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Goshin said:
Do you want your children to grow up amid a vast horde of uneducated barbarians?
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They wouldn't.
 
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joG said:
It made sense in less advanced sicieties and maybe as late as the 1980s, though, it was probably already becoming an archaic and expensive habit.
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Well,

Since the '80's we've become a much more economically bifurcated society, with a disappearing middle-class and growing number living in poverty!

With many more Americans economically challenged than then, what would lead you to believe that these eroding economic conditions warrant a decrease in public education?
 
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joG said:
Sentimentality or peer group pressure?
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Quantitative fact.

[at the time of the post]
 
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gdgyva said:
schools are paid for locally through real estate taxes (at least public schools)
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Depends on the state. Used to be like that in my state, then we changed our tax system, lowering property tax, increasing sales tax, and the schools mostly get funding out of the general fund now.
 
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gdgyva said:
schools are paid for locally through real estate taxes (at least public schools)

is there a better system? i dunno

what i do know, is that in so many places our education system is failing

why? imo, many reasons

funding is somewhere on the list....not sure it is THE reason

my three kids went to public schools....but i lived in a very good school district.....intentionally

i probably paid 150k extra for my house to live where i did

imo it was worth it, to get my kids access to the best schools available in the area

would public schools get better in areas if they had to compete with charter schools?

that is the 64k question.....all i know is that what we've been doing for 40-50 years isnt working

maybe it's time to try something different
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You can try central funding like we do in Canada, the province pays for schools from the general fund I think it is a much more fair and effective system of funding. It allows competition between public schools.
 
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Even Milton Friedman (no Communist, he) said that the groups of people who were deserving of public support included Children, the disabled, and the elderly; all those who can't be expected to provide for themselves.
 
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I prefer an educated populace. A society is only as good as the numbers of people who are properly educated and functional.
 
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Goshin said:
Do you want your children to grow up amid a vast horde of uneducated barbarians?
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It'll put hair on their asses. :lol:
 
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