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When White's commit massacres,why isn't it look at like, Black on black...[W:16]

When White's commit massacres.

  • Because it's White People?

    Votes: 2 66.7%

  • Not as serious as Black on black killings?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • It's can't be mental if people of color commit it?

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Others

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • Total voters
    3
  • Poll closed .
oncewas said:
It's always called a mental thing by the media, when White's commit massacres.
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Because 'Black on Black Crime' is a euphemism for the disproportionate violence that afflicts the inner cities of this country, specifically areas where black Americans predominate. Calling it 'Black on Black Crime' was originally an emotive way to draw attention to the issues of rampant crime within the community. It was originally a rallying cry to try and get communities and local government to address the issue of urban decay and spiraling crime rates. It also was quickly adopted as a plank for attacking sentencing disparities where there was a black perpetrator and the victim was white.

One of the first famous public uses of the phrase came from Ebony Magazine in 1973, several years after its first recorded usage in the Chicago Daily Defender to protest spiraling crime rates, and here is a small excerpt to give context:

“The black criminal must be told in no uncertain terms that his assaults and his thievery and his dope-pushing and his murders will no longer be suffered in silence.”
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Given the unique origin and long history of the phrase, it's different meaning to different audiences at different times, and it's evocative symbology, it's only natural that it would continue to persist in our modern political lexicon. Groups and individuals as disparate as President Obama, Jesse Jackson, and Bill O'Reilly use it freely whether they intend to put across the same message or not and I don't see that changing.

We don't call the massacres and shootings in this country 'white on white crime' because it isn't very accurate, isn't particularly useful as a rallying cry for a political issue, and therefore wouldn't serve as an effective euphemism for any issue in particular. Which is why no one uses it.

Examining the Origins of the Phrase 'Black-on-Black Crime' - CityLab
 
oncewas said:
It's always called a mental thing by the media, when White's commit massacres.
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Probably because it IS a massacre.

It would be one thing if you had groups of White people going around killing innocent White people indiscriminately in a mall, for example, like you do with any drive-by shootings in predominately Black neighborhoods. But these shootings at movie theaters or the Sandy Hook school shooting are lone-wolf events and equate to nothing more than random acts of violence committed by deranged individuals.

I get how they could be equated; both instill fear and terror in the survivors and witnesses/observers to the event. But bloody massacre and White-on-White/Black-on-Black crime/shooting spree...the two just aren't the same.
 
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Redress said:
Rutabagas are too good for this thread. Kidney beans, the most evil of all vegetables, is a more reasonable response for this thread.
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Kidney beans are great, especially in Cuban-style 'Red Beans & Rice'! Yum, lol. Artichokes are the most evil of all vegetables: Even its name sounds evil sounding like "choking arteries", lol
 
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Excon said:
Kidney beans?
Brussel sprouts.
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I diced pork and cooked it with brussel sprouts, cannellini beans, mushrooms and a heap of garlic last night and some habenero sauce. Yum!
 
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JosephCG said:
Kidney beans are great, especially in Cuban-style 'Red Beans & Rice'! Yum, lol. Artichokes are the most evil of all vegetables: Even its name sounds evil sounding like "choking arteries", lol
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Love artichokes... especially the hearts when in pasta or on pizza. I make anti-pastas all the time and they are good on that too
 
oncewas said:
55 % OR 14 % OF MURDERS,WILL NEVER REPLACE A "GENOCIDE " OF A PEOPLE. BLACKS IN THE USA,DIDN'T COMMIT THAT ACT OF MURDERS. White people did do that in the USA.
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Depends on what you define as mass murderers... gang bangers qualify in my opinion.
 
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For the racists, it has to be about race. There is nothing but race for the racists.

In fact, it is not always called a mental thing, whatever in the hell that is. I remember UN sanctioned massacres in the Balkans. Now, those were massacres and nobody said it was mental. Of course, when someone walks into a school or a mall or a church and starts shooting strangers, it's not generally considered a normal act whether the shooter is black or white or, well, other.

I recall a white guy got into an argument in a bar with some bikers, went out to his truck, got a rifle, went back and opened fire. People were killed. No one said it was mental but there was a specific motive, a trigger event.

I'm sorry but the original post is just more racist whining.
 
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My Lab likes to crap in the wife's garden.

My mixed breed goes down by the canal because she hates veggies.
 
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Hatuey said:
Rutabaga.
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Murder is murder. As to an MI being the cause, possible a high number are.
 
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oncewas said:
It's always called a mental thing by the media, when White's commit massacres.
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Can you post some examples of white massacres that are like black massacres you think are being treated unfairly?
 
oncewas said:
55 % OR 14 % OF MURDERS,WILL NEVER REPLACE A "GENOCIDE " OF A PEOPLE. BLACKS IN THE USA,DIDN'T COMMIT THAT ACT OF MURDERS. White people did do that in the USA.
:2wave:
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Can you tell us what genocide you are referring to?
 
oncewas said:
Native Americans...How bout that one?
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Was there a campaign to eliminate all native Americans from the land?

If there was can you tell us when it was?
 
oncewas said:
Native Americans...How bout that one?
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You think black people haven't committed genocide? There has been tons of slaughter going on in Africa the last 100 years by black people against various ethnic groups.

What I don't get is this racist mindset many liberal people have, it's as if you are on some team... like since I'm white, I'm on the white team... and others black, so they are on the black team. And these "teams" are collectively responsible for something that happened hundreds of years ago.... as if any of us should feel bad for something NONE of us even did.

it's disgusting.
 
celticwar17 said:
You think black people haven't committed genocide? There has been tons of slaughter going on in Africa the last 100 years by black people against various ethnic groups.

What I don't get is this racist mindset many liberal people have, it's as if you are on some team... like since I'm white, I'm on the white team... and others black, so they are on the black team. And these "teams" are collectively responsible for something that happened hundreds of years ago.... as if any of us should feel bad for something NONE of us even did.

it's disgusting.
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Africa " isn't America " Who care's what goes on in Africa? I live in America,and care about America's HISTORY and future!
 
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