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Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?[W:46]

Should all large & medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms


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Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Use the bathroom or cover up.

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A public restroom stall? Ew! Sitting on a toilet without a lid? Or standing? Gah! In an area where people pee and poop and haven't had the chance to sanitize their hands before touching potentially every surface in the stall?

Not all or even some restrooms at the airports have couches or sitting areas separate from the toilet area.


I had a boss who freaked because I locked my office door to express at work. He insisted I use the bathroom. With no counter top on which to set the bottles. I sorted him out on that.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Seems we don't want children being shocked or offended in this country but, some have no problem offing them before they leave their mother's womb.

It is sad.

I would love to have a discussion about abortion in the appropriate forum but FYI this issue has absolutely nothing whatsoever with the subject of abortion so I do not know why you want to derail this thread by your totally off topic post.

And most people who are "offended" by it are the parents of children, not the children itself if you properly explain that the mother is breastfeeding her baby.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Airports should. And it shouldn't be mandated. But they still should. It's one of those "smart customer service" things.

That's what California and Illinois did. Pass a law, making it so. Although, I would think their law would include Train-stations too.

But I haven't seen anything on it.
 
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I'm sorry the surgery interrupted your ability to breast feed. Obviously compared to the alternative, it's a small thing, but still. So especially in that circumstance, heck yah! Nurse away. :)

I don't understand the mindset of a woman who objects to breastfeeding in her presence. I've known a few who were turned off to nursing in general, but not for others or to that extent. Was she a mother herself? And what the heck? Not "natural"? I have all kinds of thoughts about a woman who would say that. Was she much older than you? Like of your parents' generation? My mother was a bit queasy about breast feeding in the same room with other people (she sucked it up at the airport, lol). Her generation is a bit shut off from that kind of thing since doctors told her when she tried to breast feed that she would "starve that baby" if she didn't bottle feed. (Brings to mind a certain barnyard animal.)

She had two girls but they were older, she was a teen mother for both I think. Otherwise we were within eight years age range, half a generation or so. But again, her kids were born 12 and 15 years before my first. I was mid-twenties.
 
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I would love to have a discussion about abortion in the appropriate forum but FYI this issue has absolutely nothing whatsoever with the subject of abortion so I do not know why you want to derail this thread by your totally off topic post.

And most people who are "offended" by it are the parents of children, not the children itself if you properly explain that the mother is breastfeeding her baby.

You seemed to be contemplating why we have issues like this in the US. I was only expounding on said issues.

FWIW I have no problem with women breast feeding. Both my daughters and my Wife have.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

NO! Americans just need to get over the Puritanical ridiculousness and accept women nursing in public without surprise, offense, or reaction at all.

That is EXACTLY what I was coming in here to say. Why do we need a place for women to hide, to breastfeed their children?

Good grief.

How about they take the money and build gender neutral bathrooms instead?
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Mornin Peter. :2wave: The Japanese and a couple Europeans countries have these lactation rooms in their Airports. Did they do this because it offended people? Meaning, was it done by legislation or the Airlines?

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the government stimulates breastfeeding in public, shops, bars, restaurants, lunch rooms, care facilities, etc. etc. can apply for above sticker to let women know that their business/accommodation allows public breastfeeding.

If you work and want to breastfeed, your employer must pay your wage for a maximum of 25% of the work day to be able to breastfeed (for example if the baby is with the mother at her place of work like in a day care facility) or for her to use a breast pump to pump out the breast milk. So if a woman has a full day of work, for the first 9 months after birth, she can spend up to 25% of her work day for breastfeeding/pumping breast milk and her employer will have to pay her a full days work anyway.

She cannot do this at her work station so the employer has to provide a room for her to pump out her breast milk, that room has to:

- be quit and has to be able to be locked from the inside
- there must be a table and a comfortable chair
- there cannot be a draft in that room and the woman must feel OK with the temperature (not too hot or too cold)
- somewhere in the company there has to be a refrigerator to store the breast milk until the woman can take it home
- the has to be electricity to power the breast milk pump
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

You seemed to be contemplating why we have issues like this in the US. I was only expounding on said issues.

FWIW I have no problem with women breast feeding. Both my daughters and my Wife have.

abortion has nothing to do with the issue of people not wanting breast feeding in public.
 
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the government stimulates breastfeeding in public, shops, bars, restaurants, lunch rooms, care facilities, etc. etc. can apply for above sticker to let women know that their business/accommodation allows public breastfeeding.

If you work and want to breastfeed, your employer must pay your wage for a maximum of 25% of the work day to be able to breastfeed (for example if the baby is with the mother at her place of work like in a day care facility) or for her to use a breast pump to pump out the breast milk. So if a woman has a full day of work, for the first 9 months after birth, she can spend up to 25% of her work day for breastfeeding/pumping breast milk and her employer will have to pay her a full days work anyway.

She cannot do this at her work station so the employer has to provide a room for her to pump out her breast milk, that room has to:

- be quit and has to be able to be locked from the inside
- there must be a table and a comfortable chair
- there cannot be a draft in that room and the woman must feel OK with the temperature (not too hot or too cold)
- somewhere in the company there has to be a refrigerator to store the breast milk until the woman can take it home
- the has to be electricity to power the breast milk pump


So they passed laws for public businesses to have the rooms? What do you mean by stimulate?
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Why do we need a place for women to hide, to breastfeed their children?

Why would you automatically assume a woman who doesn't want to breastfeed in public is puritanical about it? Maybe it just takes longer in public because the baby gets distracted.

And if she is modest about doing it in public, who are you to say that's wrong? There's nothing wrong with breastfeeding in public, but if a woman wants to do it in private, she should have that option.

How about they take the money and build gender neutral bathrooms instead?

Money is not a valid reason not to do this. I don't know exactly how much those little pods cost, but I can buy a 2-person sauna on Amazon for $1,000, and that comes with a glass door, heaters, lights, and a sound system. A plastic soundproofed pod can't cost any more than that (and if it does, the airports should just buy saunas, paint the door black, and leave them unplugged). With the operating cost of a large airport in the hundreds of millions per year, you could install a thousand of them, and people probably wouldn't even notice the increase in their ticket prices.
 
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Why would you automatically assume a woman who doesn't want to breastfeed in public is puritanical about it? Maybe it just takes longer in public because the baby gets distracted.

Where did you get puritanical? I said nothing of the sort, nor did I imply it. If a woman wants to breastfeed in private, that's her right, but I don't see the need to build a "quiet room" for it. Just use a blanket, like moms have been doing for years. Sheesh, stop looking for a "bad guy" in every comment. Way to overreact. :lol:

And if she is modest about doing it in public, who are you to say that's wrong? There's nothing wrong with breastfeeding in public, but if a woman wants to do it in private, she should have that option.

DID I say that it was wrong? :lol: No, I didn't. We don't need "hides" to breastfeed. You either do it in public or you do it in private, or you use a blanket.

Money is not a valid reason not to do this. I don't know exactly how much those little pods cost, but I can buy a 2-person sauna on Amazon for $1,000, and that comes with a glass door, heaters, lights, and a sound system. A plastic soundproofed pod can't cost any more than that. With the operating cost of a large airport in the hundreds of millions per year, you could install a thousand of them, and people probably wouldn't even notice the increase in their ticket prices.

And I can't imagine it's a plastic soundproofed pod. It's going to be somewhat roomy, with a comfy seat, probably hooked up to the HVAC system.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Seems we don't want children being shocked or offended in this country but, some have no problem offing them before they leave their mother's womb.

It is sad.

This has nothing to do with abortion, can you stay on topic?
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Use the bathroom or cover up.

Would YOU want to eat your meal in a dirty, stinky bathroom or have a blanket over YOUR head?
 
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Where did you get puritanical? I said nothing of the sort, nor did I imply it.

Um, because you replied to a post that said "Americans need to get over the puritanical ridiculousness" with "That was EXACTLY what I was coming in here to say". So I guess you didn't say it, but you certainly implied it.

If a woman wants to breastfeed in private, that's her right, but I don't see the need to build a "quiet room" for it. Just use a blanket, like moms have been doing for years.

A blanket is neither as private nor as quiet as a separate room that can be locked and completely enclosed. And some babies, mine included, hate being fed with a blanket covering their heads.

We don't need "hides" to breastfeed. You either do it in public or you do it in private, or you use a blanket.

You say do it in private, but you're against giving women a private place to do it that isn't a filthy airport bathroom. Make up your mind.

And I can't imagine it's a plastic soundproofed pod. It's going to be somewhat roomy, with a comfy seat, probably hooked up to the HVAC system.

Did you see the picture in the OP? It's a little plastic pod. I actually found an article with a price for them, it's roughly $11,000, which seems high for what it is, but half a dozen of them wouldn't even be a blip in the budget of most airports.

My point is that there are plenty of valid reasons to install them, and so far I've heard zero valid reasons not to.
 
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You say do it in private, but you're against giving women a private place to do it that isn't a filthy airport bathroom. Make up your mind.

I made up my mind about it a long time ago. I don't care where women breastfeed, because seeing a tit flopped out, feeding a baby, doesn't bother me in the least. If it bothers the mom, cover up with a baby blanket. If it bothers other people, turn your head.

Problem solved. Sheesh.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Would YOU want to eat your meal in a dirty, stinky bathroom or have a blanket over YOUR head?
:lol: As if infants are peeved out by location. They **** in their pants. They urinate on their own faces. I understand that some women would prefer not to use the bathroom, but just drop the pretense of table manners or shame on the part of the baby for the sake of believability.
 
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:lol: As if infants are peeved out by location. They **** in their pants. They urinate on their own faces. I understand that some women would prefer not to use the bathroom, but just drop the pretense of table manners or shame on the part of the baby for the sake of believability.

Urine is clean right from the body and the place to clean feces is in the bathroom. It however is not the place to feed meals to our next generations.

Btw, I voted no. People need to get over their idiocy about seeing babies feed.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Urine is clean right from the body..

And yet mentally capable adults still express shame when they urinate themselves. Infants don't have shame or any semblance of manners.

and the place to clean feces is in the bathroom. It however is not the place to feed meals to our next generations.

It really doesn't matter where they eat, at least to the recipient.

Btw, I voted no. People need to get over their idiocy about seeing babies feed.

I'd agree. However, there's also a sizable number of women who would take issue with being observed feeding in public. It's not a one-way street by any stretch.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

I don't care where women breastfeed, because seeing a tit flopped out, feeding a baby, doesn't bother me in the least. If it bothers the mom, cover up with a baby blanket.

There are other reasons besides modesty why women might want a private place to feed their baby. I'm not sure what you don't understand about that.
 
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There are other reasons besides modesty why women might want a private place to feed their baby. I'm not sure what you don't understand about that.

Then find a quiet room, or a corner, or anywhere. Women have breastfed for years without escape pods to hide in.

I don't know what you don't understand about that.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Moderator's Warning:
To WCH: This thread is not about abortion. Has no link to abortion in even the slightest way. Stick to the topic or you will be banned from the thread and possibly given points for trolling.

Seems we don't want children being shocked or offended in this country but, some have no problem offing them before they leave their mother's womb.

It is sad.

To everyone else that responded to WCH telling him that this thread is not about abortion. Stop playing Moderator. Report posts like this. Do not comment on them or you could also be considered as trolling. Don't get me wrong, its a good sentiment and I understand what you're trying to do. But it could still be seen as a violation of the rules. So please just don't do it.
 
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So they passed laws for public businesses to have the rooms? What do you mean by stimulate?

No, private businesses have to have private rooms for women who want to use their breast pump.

Stimulate? By writing to businesses and stuff like that. The national government pushes local government to stimulate local businesses to allow public breast feeding.
 
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:lol: As if infants are peeved out by location. They **** in their pants. They urinate on their own faces. I understand that some women would prefer not to use the bathroom, but just drop the pretense of table manners or shame on the part of the baby for the sake of believability.

Maybe the baby doesn't like the smell of the bathroom and therefore won't feed. Sorry but it's wrong to expect a woman to nurse in a place where germs abound like that.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Then find a quiet room, or a corner, or anywhere.

Most airports don't have a whole lot of quiet rooms or corners to breastfeed in privately. That's why someone is suggesting adding some.

Honestly, I really don't get why anyone would be against this. It's a nice thing to do, and the cost is negligible.
 
Re: Should all large and Medium US Airports have Lactation Rooms Nationwide?

Most airports don't have a whole lot of quiet rooms or corners to breastfeed in privately. That's why someone is suggesting adding some.

Honestly, I really don't get why anyone would be against this. It's a nice thing to do, and the cost is negligible.
So I have a solution - given the cost is "negligible," all those who are for this measure can be the ones who pay for it.

There, problem solved.
 
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