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Society as a whole doesn't take women harassing men seriously.
That is my point, as you are well aware, I am sure.
Society as a whole doesn't take women harassing men seriously.
If in a commercial a man grabbed a woman and pulled her face pressing into his crotch against his will there would be cries of oppression, rape, violence, etc. the world over, you would be screaming about it and you freaking well know it too... :roll:
You don't know me!!! Stop harassing me!
"Harassing" you? :lol:
Sorry for no links people...
Intellectual coward is your motis operendi. I didn't see you respond to my posts addressing the point, either.Sure. There are intellectual cowards that fail to address the point at times... I see you are not addressing the point in this thread.
Do so...
You said it was a commercial but failed to mention what product or message they were trying to sell. New Zealand's headlines are splashed with sexual harassment charges against it's Prime Minister and other government officials. Could it have anything to do with that? Or did you expect everyone to judge a commercial they've never seen simply based on your dubious interpretation of it?
Why did the woman, Denise make her hair look like Dennis, the male trainer and then act like a man coming onto a woman? Is there something you're not telling us?
I looked but couldn't find anything. But in my search I did see that New Zealand is having a sexual harassment scandal involving their prime minister and a few other high up officials. So the issue is probably a hot topic there right now.
I can't help but wonder what kind of message Bodi is giving his daughters by blaming women for sexual harassment: "Look girls, women do it, too so never mind when men cop a feel making your job uncomfortable.....just enjoy it girls, or it'll look like you have double standards."
And also that women are infantilized. The reason why women get alimony even though most of them work, and also get away with things like this, are exactly the same reason. They are deemed too stupid to be responsible for their own actions and lives.
I just wanted to address this part. Men and women get alimony and it has nothing to do with women being "too stupid to be responsible for their own actions" and everything to do with the fact that being in a marriage where you stay home, don't work, puts you at a disadvantage if that marriage dissolves, particularly if it is due to something you had no control over. Sure, there are people who are gold diggers and take advantage of this, but it doesn't normally go to women or men who work unless they have a completely crappy job, and their spouse such an awesome one that they have a vast gap between their incomes (not a very common situation even among those who get alimony).
That should be your responsbility if you want to seperate from a partnership. Your former partner doesn't have anything to do with whatever financial situation you put yourself in.
Who said the person getting alimony is the one choosing to end the relationship? Plus there is a good deal of precedence in using the fact that a person makes all or most of the money using that against the other spouse to control them. Reality is that some people provide something(s) other than money in a relationship, getting little to no job experience putting them at a severe disadvantage if the relationship ends or becomes abusive.
It is usually women initiating divorces, and usually women receiving alimony. So in most cases, it is.
Abusive and coercive situations are a matter of criminal law.
More and more men are receiving alimony. Because more and more women are going to work and making more than their spouse.
Alimony: Women Increasingly Paying Alimony To Their Ex Husbands
Alimony is rare to begin with.
Alimony Figures
On the highest side, what I can find is about 1-2% of people are currently receiving spousal support (not to be confused with child support). That is a very small percentage of the population. Especially since there are still some who are still entitled to lifetime support due to their arrangements being made prior to the new laws that changed most alimony to being temporary for most spouses, to get them back on their feet (as it absolutely should be).
Spousal support considerations for California
Spousal/Partner Support - divorce_or_separation_selfhelp
I was watching this commercial with my daughters this morning where this new worker (woman) gets a job and is obsessed with the male trainer. His name is Dennis and she claims her name is Denise. She makes her hair the same and then sits really close claiming (touching distance) where she then proceeds to touch his torso against his will as he looks nervous and runs away while she has a creepy look and smile following him down the hall. In another commercial she is on a ladder and asks for help balancing and she pulls his face into her ass... literally.
What the ****? I think it is funny but it is clear cut sexism that it is OK, AND FUNNY, to sexually harass a man.
Imagine if the roles where reversed and a man did that to a woman in a commercial? Firings... suing... protests.
So, why is a double standard acceptable and this Poll is primarily directed to women. Do you think it is acceptable and if so... why?
First of all it's difficult for me to imagine a man that is opposed to the sexual advances of a woman but if he is it's really more a power issue to me. I don't consider the advances of a man to be harassment (or threatening) unless he can physically overpower me (and I think he might try for some reason) or is in a position of authority (say a boss) and because of that I am unable (without high cost to myself) make him stop. So uninvited advances IMO do not constitute harassment.
It is like domestic violence. Women commit something lie 40% of the domestic abuse but all we hear about is how abusive men are. I am pointing out a societal problem.
A little wierd, but I'm not offended by it.
That is simply not true. I know many men who have felt sexually used, or had unwanted advances -- and no, not just from "unattractive" women. They often have an even harder time saying no than women do -- despite the general lack of physical risk, they do experience a very real social one.
Many women ard emotionally violent and sexually aggressive. These people should be held responsible for their actions.
In some areas.... women are even higher than 40%.
I worked in a wealthy part of the city as a cop and I would have to say I more often had to arrest women than men for Domestic Violence assaults. These men were executives that knew what kind of career ruination could occur if they were to strike a women, plus with the added effect of the same theory that men are always going to be suspect, they often weren't the ones who called either.
Had one dude have his arm sliced open from elbow to wrist by a broken wine class.... he didn't call.... didn't want her arrested.... and didn't enter the court room when the case came to trial/refused to testify.
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Some stereotypes are hard to break though........and OVERALL women are more often abused than men in REPORTED crimes. Most men don't report it
Why did the woman, Denise make her hair look like Dennis, the male trainer and then act like a man coming onto a woman? Is there something you're not telling us?
It's harassment either way, technically.
However, it's dishonest to ignore the historical and consistent precedence in different reactions to said situation between genders.
Women by and large do not enjoy men touching and groping them.
Men typically do not mind women touching them or groping them - unless the women is unattractive.
That's a reality in gender differences and it immortalized in cultures across the globe so that women will typically not think twice about putting her breast in man's face or her ass or cooch for ****s and giggles and rarely receive backlash because, by and large, that man will enjoy the experience.
I would go as far as saying that if there was ever any real push to stop women, especially beautiful women, from groping men most heterosexual men would fight against it.
Good post. Almost 40% of domestic abuse is caused by women... my ex-wife was like that too.
Intellectual coward is your motis operendi. I didn't see you respond to my posts addressing the point, either.
Do so...
1 - You said it was a commercial but failed to mention what product or message they were trying to sell. New Zealand's headlines are splashed with sexual harassment charges against it's Prime Minister and other government officials. Could it have anything to do with that? Or did you expect everyone to judge a commercial they've never seen simply based on your dubious interpretation of it?
2 - Why did the woman, Denise make her hair look like Dennis, the male trainer and then act like a man coming onto a woman? Is there something you're not telling us?
3 - I looked but couldn't find anything. But in my search I did see that New Zealand is having a sexual harassment scandal involving their prime minister and a few other high up officials. So the issue is probably a hot topic there right now.