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Sexist Double Standard

Is the double standard acceptable?


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Ew... The "pulls his face into her ass" bit made me pull a bit of a face.

It's acceptable largely because men aren't allowed to say they feel grossed out by such behavior, and women are infantilized to the point where they can do pretty much whatever they want sexually without getting the same kind of blow-back men do.

It's a weird combination of things. It is not one sex or the other being insulted. It's both. Men are insulted by being called "sissies" or "faggots" about bringing up unwanted female attention or touch, and this comes from virtually avenues of society. Men's feelings are deligitimized, because men are reduced to their conquests. And also that women are infantilized. The reason why women get alimony even though most of them work, and also get away with things like this, are exactly the same reason. They are deemed too stupid to be responsible for their own actions and lives.

I can't speak about anybody else's workplace, but I have been required to continually take harassment training that includes cyber-stalking and etc. Arrrrgh, four training modules with quizzes in the past five months, and each one had at least 155 slides. But I can't say that I haven't learned.

So big diff between a role-reversal sexist commercial and what is tolerated in the workplace. Doesn't matter whether you're male or female or gay or straight or whatever race you are or whether your comment is about age, weight, race, gender, nationality, or religion, you can't say it. If I am offended or feel threatened, you're probably guilty. Even "over the hill" black balloons at an office party are discriminatory.
 
I can't speak about anybody else's workplace, but I have been required to continually take harassment training that includes cyber-stalking and etc. Arrrrgh, four training modules with quizzes in the past five months, and each one had at least 155 slides. But I can't say that I haven't learned.

So big diff between a role-reversal sexist commercial and what is tolerated in the workplace. Doesn't matter whether you're male or female or gay or straight or whatever race you are or whether your comment is about age, weight, race, gender, nationality, or religion, you can't say it. If I am offended or feel threatened, you're probably guilty. Even "over the hill" black balloons at an office party are discriminatory.

I don't know whether this sort of behavior would be accepted in an actual work place (I surely hope not -- there's a world of difference between joke balloons and literally pulling someone into your genitals, I'd say), but as a commercial, it is accepted. People would find this far less entertaining with sexes reversed.
 
As long as I'm the one being "harassed" by the female, I don't mind.
 
I believe it. We've seen worse examples, honestly. That incident on The View where women were laughing at a guy who got seriously mangled by his wife comes to mind.

OMG, that is beyond horrible! I've never watched that show, or any of those daytime gossip shows for that matter, but I can't imagine anyone mocking a man who'd been seriously wounded just because it was a woman who wounded him. Good grief. :(
 
Remember the Diet Coke (or Coke?) commercials that had the women working in an office ogling the guy?

Now that you mention it, I vaguely remember something like that.
 
I was watching this commercial with my daughters this morning where this new worker (woman) gets a job and is obsessed with the male trainer. His name is Dennis and she claims her name is Denise. She makes her hair the same and then sits really close claiming (touching distance) where she then proceeds to touch his torso against his will as he looks nervous and runs away while she has a creepy look and smile following him down the hall. In another commercial she is on a ladder and asks for help balancing and she pulls his face into her ass... literally.

What the ****? I think it is funny but it is clear cut sexism that it is OK, AND FUNNY, to sexually harass a man.

Imagine if the roles where reversed and a man did that to a woman in a commercial? Firings... suing... protests.

So, why is a double standard acceptable and this Poll is primarily directed to women. Do you think it is acceptable and if so... why?

Society as a whole doesn't take women harassing men seriously.
 
Gay men raped by heterosexual men, most likely.

I would think it would be a larger woman that is with a smaller man.

I have seen it myself like that.
 
I would think it would be a larger woman that is with a smaller man.

I have seen it myself like that.
Hold on, you actually SAW a large woman rape a smaller man? NK, how did you manage to do that?

I can just see the headlines now: Rampant Raping of Small Men by Large Women: Men Afraid to Go Out at Night. Police Departments overwhelmed with men rape kits. No clear suspects or evidence...but eye witness, Mason said he once saw a large woman rape a small man. Men everywhere are advised to carry protection.
 
Society as a whole doesn't take women harassing men seriously.

They don't seem to take men harassing women, very seriously either.
 
Hold on, you actually SAW a large woman rape a smaller man? NK, how did you manage to do that?

I can just see the headlines now: Rampant Raping of Small Men by Large Women: Men Afraid to Go Out at Night. Police Departments overwhelmed with men rape kits. No clear suspects or evidence...but eye witness, Mason said he once saw a large woman rape a small man. Men everywhere are advised to carry protection.

Since when is domestic violence rape?
 
I was watching this commercial with my daughters this morning where this new worker (woman) gets a job and is obsessed with the male trainer. His name is Dennis and she claims her name is Denise. She makes her hair the same and then sits really close claiming (touching distance) where she then proceeds to touch his torso against his will as he looks nervous and runs away while she has a creepy look and smile following him down the hall. In another commercial she is on a ladder and asks for help balancing and she pulls his face into her ass... literally.

What the ****? I think it is funny but it is clear cut sexism that it is OK, AND FUNNY, to sexually harass a man.

Imagine if the roles where reversed and a man did that to a woman in a commercial? Firings... suing... protests.

So, why is a double standard acceptable and this Poll is primarily directed to women. Do you think it is acceptable and if so... why?

Until fairly recently, a great deal of marketing was directed to men on exactly this same thing. And cooking and cleaning and kid stuff to women. People then started commenting on objectifying women. But it's still one of the strongest focuses (foci) for marketing....sex appeal. And now they use it to appeal to women too.

It's actually a more equal distribution IMO, even if some find it obvious or crass or even demeaning.
 
Was she hot?
 
Since when is domestic violence rape?

Since you responded to my post about "homosexuals getting raped by heterosexual males."

So, does that mean you really didn't see a large woman rape a small man?
 
They don't seem to take men harassing women, very seriously either.

Umm you might want to rethink that again.
 
Regardless of which genders are involved, sexual harassment is clearly wrong, and some double standards based on gender stereotypes get in the way of that premise. The commercial however, sounds more like light humor than anything else.

Of course it is humour. I laughed myself. Then I thought about the double standard.

So - four pages of discussion in, has anyone found the commercial on YouTube so we can see for ourselves?

Kinda' hard to evaluate video based upon a narrative ...



Again, those innate differences. I feel that there aren't many women, that if I had to defend myself against, I wouldn't be able to. Now the reverse is probably not true.

And that is why women use weapons. Pots, pans, brooms, etc. Being attacked does not mean being annihilated... it means being attacked.
 
Thread fail.

Sure. There are intellectual cowards that fail to address the point at times... I see you are not addressing the point in this thread.

Do so...
 
Until fairly recently, a great deal of marketing was directed to men on exactly this same thing. And cooking and cleaning and kid stuff to women. People then started commenting on objectifying women. But it's still one of the strongest focuses (foci) for marketing....sex appeal. And now they use it to appeal to women too.

It's actually a more equal distribution IMO, even if some find it obvious or crass or even demeaning.

I understand all of that and I don't mind as long as it is OK to make fun of women in commercials, which it isn't as far as I can tell.
 
depends on the junk

If in a commercial a man grabbed a woman and pulled her face pressing into his crotch against his will there would be cries of oppression, rape, violence, etc. the world over, you would be screaming about it and you freaking well know it too... :roll:
 
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