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Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

Are People Of Religious Faith Typically Bigots?

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They're a mixed bag, as are us non-religious folks.
 
In my experience the religious, the fanatics (or worse, the extremists) are evil at heart and need the "heavenly" aura in religion to hide their true intentions.
 
JFish123 said:
There are atheists bigots too soooo yeah
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Here's how it is rookie,

What you do is make posts related to the OP. If options about atheists were to be available then this would be relevant.

But there is no option about atheists in the polls, is there?

If you so wish to tackle the matter then open up an appropriate thread bout such issues and we will see where it goes.
 
Nope.

I've yet to see any inherent moral superiority amongst the irreligious.

It's an absurd question, though it did make for an entertaining thread.
stonewall50 said:
Funny. I've met lots of non religious people who are the same way.
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I was thinking the same thing.

I've met far more callous people amongst the irreligious bunch than the religious one. But, that's just another anecdote.
 
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Van Basten said:
Nope.

I've yet to see any inherent moral superiority amongst the irreligious.

It's an absurd question, though it did make for an entertaining thread.

I was thinking the same thing.

I've met far more callous people amongst the irreligious bunch than the religious one. But, that's just another anecdote.
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Sure. The thing is...I know more religious people. And I got to a moderate church. So I know many people who aren't bigoted, and those that are not willing to go to a church that doesn't support their views.

My roommates brother is an atheist. He is one of the few who openly insulted my religion face to face. My experience has been mainly on here. There is that, but I don't know many atheists.
 
DDD said:
In my experience the religious, the fanatics (or worse, the extremists) are evil at heart and need the "heavenly" aura in religion to hide their true intentions.
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I agree with you for the bold, but simply being religious does not make one do all the things you see the latter two do. OF course I'm willing to bet that you are only classifying those as Christian, and Muslim, maybe Jewish, as the religious, completely ignoring the Wiccans, Pagans, and other minor religions.
 
DDD said:
Here's how it is rookie,

What you do is make posts related to the OP. If options about atheists were to be available then this would be relevant.

But there is no option about atheists in the polls, is there?

If you so wish to tackle the matter then open up an appropriate thread bout such issues and we will see where it goes.
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Yeah right. Like none of the experience posters here have ever pointed out that kind of lack of logic in an OP. And actually I find that most of those who declare themselves athiests, as opposed to those who won't mention it unless asked, are majority bigots as well.
 
My theory is that religion exploits a vulnerability within the mind that can be used to stir up innate bigotry, but not necessarily so. Once religion enters your mind, it is very difficult to separate your genuine, rational beliefs from religious dogma. Like a virus in a computer, it can spread and overwrite otherwise benign data, infecting it. Eventually you're left with a thought process that is full of religious pop-up windows that chugs along at half the speed of a regular person's intellect.
 
Pozessed said:
big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots

a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

My experiences tell me yes, all people who strictly try to follow ancient religions are bigots. I'm curious of other peoples opinions on this.
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You sound very intolerant of religion. Hmmmm.
 
Amadeus said:
My theory is that religion exploits a vulnerability within the mind that can be used to stir up innate bigotry, but not necessarily so. Once religion enters your mind, it is very difficult to separate your genuine, rational beliefs from religious dogma. Like a virus in a computer, it can spread and overwrite otherwise benign data, infecting it. Eventually you're left with a thought process that is full of religious pop-up windows that chugs along at half the speed of a regular person's intellect.
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Depends on how you define “vulnerability.” You seem to see this as a weakness rather than as an openness. Some would call this a narrow, rigid view.

Why would anyone necessarily need to separate “genuine” and “rational” beliefs from “religious dogma”? Why can’t one’s faith be affirmed by the genuine and rational?

That you see faith as an infected thought-process says much. You aren’t going to find much empirical evidence, however, that a “regular person’s intellect” is any “faster” than the intellect of a person of faith. ;)
 
Amadeus said:
My theory is that religion exploits a vulnerability within the mind that can be used to stir up innate bigotry, but not necessarily so. Once religion enters your mind, it is very difficult to separate your genuine, rational beliefs from religious dogma. Like a virus in a computer, it can spread and overwrite otherwise benign data, infecting it. Eventually you're left with a thought process that is full of religious pop-up windows that chugs along at half the speed of a regular person's intellect.
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So, according to you, many liberal gay Christians have infected minds.
 
nota bene said:
Depends on how you define “vulnerability.” You seem to see this as a weakness rather than as an openness.
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It's a vulnerability. It allows for the infiltration of beliefs and ideas that are not evidence-based.

Why would anyone necessarily need to separate “genuine” and “rational” beliefs from “religious dogma”?
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Because religious dogma was written hundreds or thousands of years ago in an era where there was little understanding of the human condition, where magical thinking was common, and which is at odds with empirical reality.

That you see faith as an infected thought-process says much.
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Indeed it does.

You aren’t going to find much empirical evidence, however, that a “regular person’s intellect” is any “faster” than the intellect of a person of faith. ;)
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Religious belief impedes rational thought. You have to contend with and overcome the hurdle of scripture (or, conversely, surrender to it and thus forego thought). That seems to be an obstacle to me.
 
Logicman said:
So, according to you, many liberal gay Christians have infected minds.
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By your reckoning, they are not Christians. So are you asking me to explain something that you outright reject to begin with?
 
Amadeus said:
By your reckoning, they are not Christians. So are you asking me to explain something that you outright reject to begin with?
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So you're questioning their Christianity as well as their minds.

According to YOU, are there gay Christians? And if so, are their minds infected with religion / Christianity?
 
Amadeus said:
My theory is that religion exploits a vulnerability within the mind that can be used to stir up innate bigotry, but not necessarily so. Once religion enters your mind, it is very difficult to separate your genuine, rational beliefs from religious dogma. Like a virus in a computer, it can spread and overwrite otherwise benign data, infecting it. Eventually you're left with a thought process that is full of religious pop-up windows that chugs along at half the speed of a regular person's intellect.
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This theory is it based upon your being on the outside looking into another’s beliefs – opinions- thought processes? Your personal observations?
 
Logicman said:
So you're questioning their Christianity as well as their minds.

According to YOU, are there gay Christians? And if so, are their minds infected with religion / Christianity?
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If someone says they are Christian, I have no choice but to believe them. And yes, people who genuinely believe in magic, that angels and demons are real, and that scripture is literally true are infected.

90% of the time, Christians don't literally believe in magical nonsense, and only use the Bible as moral guide. Which seems fine with me.
 
Amadeus said:
If someone says they are Christian, I have no choice but to believe them. And yes, people who genuinely believe in magic, that angels and demons are real, and that scripture is literally true are infected.
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Thus, gay Christians have infected minds, according to you.

Amadeus said:
90% of the time, Christians don't literally believe in magical nonsense, and only use the Bible as moral guide. Which seems fine with me.
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I don't know anybody like that except for some posing as Christians.

As for magic, you have your own magical beliefs - that the universe suddenly appeared out of nothing as if it were a magician's trick, and that the first incredibly complex living cell suddenly appeared out of primordial swamp slime, etc.

Personally,

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Logicman said:
Thus, gay Christians have infected minds, according to you.
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Well, gays are just normal people, and are subject to the same religious vulnerabilities as anyone else. Where you expecting me to grant gays magical abilities?

As for magic, you have your own magical beliefs - that the universe suddenly appeared out of nothing as if it were a magician's trick, and that the first incredibly complex living cell suddenly appeared out of primordial swamp slime, etc.
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I believe in science, not magic. My understanding of the universe is flexible, since science is not a doctrine but a methodology of understanding natural phenomena.
 
Pozessed said:
big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots

a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

My experiences tell me yes, all people who strictly try to follow ancient religions are bigots. I'm curious of other peoples opinions on this.
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Nah, no more than anyone else. The religious institutions are bigoted though and of course the bigots who run them influence everyone else into being bigoted. It's a simple method of control. Humans love distinction. We love to think we are better than another group so it's always popular to incite bigotry.

just look how far the progressive left has gotten by race baiting.
 
ObamacareFail said:
You sound very intolerant of religion. Hmmmm.
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Its fair of you to jump to that conclusion, but you'd be wrong. I have never told someone to stop telling me about their faith. I have never shunned someone for speaking of it or practicing their religion. And I have never been angered and hurt someone because of their religion.
Quite the opposite actually. I ask questions and try to understand why they are so compelled by their faith.
I will admit I am not a fan of religion. I think religion is an unnecessary tool that was supposed to teach us moral integrity but failed due to compounding contradictions. I am able to dislike something and still find reasons and methods to tolerate that which I don't like.
 
maquiscat said:
Yeah right. Like none of the experience posters here have ever pointed out that kind of lack of logic in an OP.
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What?

maquiscat said:
And actually I find that most of those who declare themselves athiests, as opposed to those who won't mention it unless asked, are majority bigots as well.
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Its called "atheists," you are welcome.

Interesting observation.
 
maquiscat said:
I agree with you for the bold, but simply being religious does not make one do all the things you see the latter two do. OF course I'm willing to bet that you are only classifying those as Christian, and Muslim, maybe Jewish, as the religious, completely ignoring the Wiccans, Pagans, and other minor religions.
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You would win the bet.

It definitely does not applies to Pagans. When I mention "religion" I speak of the religion that Albanians prescribe to, and those are: Muslim, Catholic, and Orthodox Christian.
 
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