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Political Correctness

Is Political Correctness Real

  • Yes

    Votes: 82 82.8%
  • No

    Votes: 8 8.1%
  • Other

    Votes: 9 9.1%

  • Total voters
    99
What does "shouting down" mean? Isn't that just multiple people calling it evil?

It is so bad now that simply saying a person is black will get calls of racism from kids... I see and hear it everyday and Political Correctness is ruining free speech.
 
You too. Give my love to the Kiwis.

... Can't remember where we left it so I will pick up the debate from here. USA just beat Japan in Women's World Cup!!

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It is so bad now that simply saying a person is black will get calls of racism from kids... I see and hear it everyday and Political Correctness is ruining free speech.

You misunderstand what free speech is. Free speech is NOT just being able to say whatever with no consequences. Free speech is the idea that if the government doesn't regulate speech, over time, good ideas will tend to float to the top and bad ideas will tend to get shouted down. That's the whole point of it. The people shouting down racism aren't ruining free speech, they are free speech performing as hoped.
 
Unless you come over here and physically bound and gag me you can't silence me from saying something.

It is intimidation. We had a couple of women complaining that women were not properly represented in leadership positions and two got jobs 1 of which was mine (when it came up for applications again). I said that it was sexism and was soundly yelled at by people and who were soundly defeated in the debate by me. Those women got their job because of their gender. That is sexism. I am very unpopular with some of the staff because of that and that is reverse political correctness. It is OK to be sexist if it promotes an agenda.
 
You misunderstand what free speech is. Free speech is NOT just being able to say whatever with no consequences. Free speech is the idea that if the government doesn't regulate speech, over time, good ideas will tend to float to the top and bad ideas will tend to get shouted down. That's the whole point of it. The people shouting down racism aren't ruining free speech, they are free speech performing as hoped.

As hoped according to your agenda and I know very well what free speech is... You say making racist comments is bad and so you support Political Correctness that ruins free speech. Justification... that's all. Doesn't make a logical point either.
 
It is intimidation. We had a couple of women complaining that women were not properly represented in leadership positions and two got jobs 1 of which was mine (when it came up for applications again). I said that it was sexism and was soundly yelled at by people and who were soundly defeated in the debate by me. Those women got their job because of their gender. That is sexism. I am very unpopular with some of the staff because of that and that is reverse political correctness. It is OK to be sexist if it promotes an agenda.

You need to watch a show that will properly teach you that all human institutions are run by politics. Maybe that show is Madmen, or maybe it's House of Cards. Either way, you'll know you chose the right one when by the end of the first season you are properly jaded. That, or turn forty.
 
Real or not... some think it isn't and they are generally the ones guilty of being Politically Correct. :lol:

Thoughts....

They know what they are doing is monstrous so they don't like to admit it exists. Here's how the dirty rotten scoundrels think...

Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals

Here is the complete list from Alinsky.

* RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.” Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. “Have-Nots” must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
* RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don’t address the “real” issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
* RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.” Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
* RULE 4: “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
* RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
* RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.” They’ll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They’re doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid “un-fun” activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
* RULE 7: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.” Don’t become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
* RULE 8: “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
* RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists’ minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
* RULE 10: “If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.” Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management’s wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
* RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
* RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
 
It is intimidation. We had a couple of women complaining that women were not properly represented in leadership positions and two got jobs 1 of which was mine (when it came up for applications again). I said that it was sexism and was soundly yelled at by people and who were soundly defeated in the debate by me. Those women got their job because of their gender. That is sexism. I am very unpopular with some of the staff because of that and that is reverse political correctness. It is OK to be sexist if it promotes an agenda.

Let's assume for a moment that this is not just a matter of how you are perceiving things. Sometimes we make sacrifices because it serves a greater purpose.
 
Real or not... some think it isn't and they are generally the ones guilty of being Politically Correct. :lol:

Thoughts....


Wow the right is great at redefining something fundamentally sound as negative. It sucks
 
You need to watch a show that will properly teach you that all human institutions are run by politics. Maybe that show is Madmen, or maybe it's House of Cards. Either way, you'll know you chose the right one when by the end of the first season you are properly jaded. That, or turn forty.

I have no idea what this means/// :lol:
 
They know what they are doing is monstrous so they don't like to admit it exists. Here's how the dirty rotten scoundrels think...

Saul Alinsky’s 12 Rules for Radicals

Here is the complete list from Alinsky.

Here we go...
 
Let's assume for a moment that this is not just a matter of how you are perceiving things. .

How I am perceiving this situation? How am I "perceiving things" in my scenario then?

Sometimes we make sacrifices because it serves a greater purpose

So you support sexism. Got it. That is all I need to know. No need to respond to me again...
 
How I am perceiving this situation? How am I "perceiving things" in my scenario then?



So you support sexism. Got it. That is all I need to know. No need to respond to me again...

You might be behaving a tad hyper-sensitive here
 
It is intimidation. We had a couple of women complaining that women were not properly represented in leadership positions and two got jobs 1 of which was mine (when it came up for applications again). I said that it was sexism and was soundly yelled at by people and who were soundly defeated in the debate by me. Those women got their job because of their gender. That is sexism. I am very unpopular with some of the staff because of that and that is reverse political correctness. It is OK to be sexist if it promotes an agenda.
Or maybe they were more qualified, but had been previously looked over because of their gender and now they got the job that was rightfully theirs and you lost the privilege of getting something you didn't deserve.
 
I have no idea what this means/// :lol:

You can't completely control the politics in any situation (although there are certainly things you can do nudge them in your favor). But there is one thing you have absolute god-like control over: be better than everybody else. Combined with an attention to your business and social relationships, you can really start to stack the odds back onto your side.
 
You might be behaving a tad hyper-sensitive here

How is the woman getting the job after complaining about not having the job for reasons ONLY RELATING TO gender, and then getting the job, serving the greater good?
 
Or maybe they were more qualified, but had been previously looked over because of their gender and now they got the job that was rightfully theirs and you lost the privilege of getting something you didn't deserve.

She was actually less qualified but you are free to assume anything you like... Instead of automatically assuming I am lying or ignorant of my own situation it would really be refreshing to see you just answer the ****ing question based off of what was presented but I have to assume that runs counter to your world view.
 
You can't completely control the politics in any situation (although there are certainly things you can do nudge them in your favor). But there is one thing you have absolute god-like control over: be better than everybody else. Combined with an attention to your business and social relationships, you can really start to stack the odds back onto your side.

Agreed... although as I pointed out and happens over and over in our brave new politically correct world, that is not always enough.
 
How is the woman getting the job after complaining about not having the job for reasons ONLY RELATING TO gender, and then getting the job, serving the greater good?

What do you actually KNOW about this situation? Honestly. Unless someone in HR is leaking information to you
 
She was actually less qualified but you are free to assume anything you like... Instead of automatically assuming I am lying or ignorant of my own situation it would really be refreshing to see you just answer the ****ing question based off of what was presented but I have to assume that runs counter to your world view.
I said "maybe". I have no reason to trust your word and I also don't know that you are wrong. No need to get upset about it.
 
What do you actually KNOW about this situation? Honestly. Unless someone in HR is leaking information to you

I know almost everything about this situation and since so much of it was very open it wasn't that hard to understand it, in all honesty.
 
I know almost everything about this situation and since so much of it was very open it wasn't that hard to understand it, in all honesty.

What does almost everything mean though? Did you get input directly from HR or are you speculating?
 
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