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Political Correctness

Is Political Correctness Real

  • Yes

    Votes: 82 82.8%

  • No

    Votes: 8 8.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 9 9.1%
  • Total voters
    99
Boo Radley said:
Which would likely be a pretty private conversation. But if you did it in public, not knowing who was there, there is likely to some one either disabled or connected with someone someone disabled. It's a silly word, not worth defense. Is your vocabulary extremely limited?
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I just like the word and it often comes to mind when something is stupid. :D
 
Boo Radley said:
The phrase common sense is too often use to cover up a lack of reasoning present in an argument. While I agree context matters, I also recognize a population so abused by a word that context becomes irrelevant.
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The only times people are being abused by words in a context without harmful intent is when liberals tell them they are.

Just like the Dukes of Hazzard...... nobody found it racist until Liberals told them it was racist. And it isn't racist in reality.

I could go on and on and on.....

Sometimes I wonder if the PC mentality is intent on turning us all into New Yorkers, but for different reasons. Instead of not talking to each other in the community because ... hell Im not sure why people in New York are so damned stuck up.... but instead we will be afraid to talk to strangers because you never know how we may be able to offend someone.



Modern Americans offend me.
 
Caine said:
The only times people are being abused by words in a context without harmful intent is when liberals tell them they are.

Just like the Dukes of Hazzard...... nobody found it racist until Liberals told them it was racist. And it isn't racist in reality.

I could go on and on and on.....

Sometimes I wonder if the PC mentality is intent on turning us all into New Yorkers, but for different reasons. Instead of not talking to each other in the community because ... hell Im not sure why people in New York are so damned stuck up.... but instead we will be afraid to talk to strangers because you never know how we may be able to offend someone.



Modern Americans offend me.
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Times change. The Dukes of Hazzard was always offensive to me. Poor acting, terribly simplistic story lines and no real meat at all always offends me. But that's another issue. The fact is we grow, change, and just because something wasn't offensive before, or at least not that a major knew or cared about doesn't mean it will always stay that way. Factually much of the same population was offend then, without the voice to be heard.
 
Boo Radley said:
Times change. The Dukes of Hazzard was always offensive to me. Poor acting, terribly simplistic story lines and no real meat at all always offends me. But that's another issue. The fact is we grow, change, and just because something wasn't offensive before, or at least not that a major knew or cared about doesn't mean it will always stay that way. Factually much of the same population was offend then, without the voice to be heard.
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So, whoever screams like a little bitch the loudest wins huh?
 
tuhaybey said:
No, you've still got the agency mixed up. Free speech is about letting everybody- society as a whole- say what it thinks. If enough people think something is despicable, and they say so, then the people who want to say that thing get drowned out and demeaned for saying it. That's what political correctness is- society firmly rejecting an idea. It isn't some special cadre of people that get to decide, it is society as a whole.
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I don't agree with this. Take the Redskins for an example. A minority of Native Americans think that their team name is offensive and have even gotten the Patent Office to try and get the team name changed.
 
Boo Radley said:
Times change. The Dukes of Hazzard was always offensive to me. Poor acting, terribly simplistic story lines and no real meat at all always offends me. But that's another issue. The fact is we grow, change, and just because something wasn't offensive before, or at least not that a major knew or cared about doesn't mean it will always stay that way. Factually much of the same population was offend then, without the voice to be heard.
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I have never been offended by DoH, at least not in the sense that people are talking about today, but I have always thought it was incredibly dumb.


Kal'Stang said:
I don't agree with this. Take the Redskins for an example. A minority of Native Americans think that their team name is offensive and have even gotten the Patent Office to try and get the team name changed.
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A loud and vocal minority can have more power than most people think.
 
Caine said:
So, whoever screams like a little bitch the loudest wins huh?
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No, but being polite is hardly a sin. Things change. Adaptable people change with them. And that which will not bend, breaks.
 
radcen said:
I have never been offended by DoH, at least not in the sense that people are talking about today, but I have always thought it was incredibly dumb.
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Like I said, by poor acting, simplistic stories and gratuitous everything. So I agree it was dumb.
 
People who whine about "PC" are really just mad that their asshole opinions lead them to be called assholes by other people.
 
Deuce said:
People who whine about "PC" are really just mad that their asshole opinions lead them to be called assholes by other people.
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Generalizations are generally wrong.
 
Bodhisattva said:
IS using the term retarded when discussing a situation... like, that is retarded, offensive?
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I prefer a softer approach and more accurate approach. I would use the term "stupid" rather than retarded. In using the term "stupid" you are aiding that "stupid" person in their ongoing self evaluaton of that said person and thus aiding them is improving their "stupid" approach.

Example:
The person has a terminal case of cranial rectitus. If you call them stupid they can recognize their weakness and correct it.

If you call them "retarded" it is just name calling.
I am all about empowering people by aiding them with their self awareness.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I prefer a softer approach and more accurate approach. I would use the term "stupid" rather than retarded. In using the term "stupid" you are aiding that "stupid" person in their ongoing self evaluaton of that said person and thus aiding them is improving their "stupid" approach.

Example:
The person has a terminal case of cranial rectitus. If you call them stupid they can recognize their weakness and correct it.

If you call them "retarded" it is just name calling.
I am all about empowering people by aiding them with their self awareness.
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Sure, but that was a term used to describe mentally challenged people back in the day. It changed. So can retarded. Retarded is just as accurate as stupid. People say something is dumb but that is offensive to those that can't speak... where does it end?
 
Bodhisattva said:
Sure, but that was a term used to describe mentally challenged people back in the day. It changed. So can retarded. Retarded is just as accurate as stupid. People say something is dumb but that is offensive to those that can't speak... where does it end?
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All things are equally offensive, and perceptions of such can never change! I agree!
 
An excerpt from the link in #361:

". . . But as PC censoriousness has crept into the world of comedy, the ‘liberals’ in his audience who were once able to suspend their sensitivities for a night of stand-up are now incapable of doing so.

His new set is peppered with jokes about him coming face-to-face with the new intolerance. There’s the lesbian couple whose kid is at the same ‘liberal-rich’ private school as his son – one of them laughing along at his jokes about whether or not they qualify for the father-son picnic, the other ‘too committed to her lesbianism’ to entertain them. And then there’s that trans joke, in which Dave, finding himself at a poncey gallery party, is stared down when he dares to ask ‘Is he okay?’ after a cross-dresser collapses in the corner. ‘I support anyone’s right to be who they want to be. My question is: to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?’ . . . ."
 
Bodhisattva said:
Sure, but that was a term used to describe mentally challenged people back in the day. It changed. So can retarded. Retarded is just as accurate as stupid. People say something is dumb but that is offensive to those that can't speak... where does it end?
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Stupid is someone that knows better but does it anyway. Someone told me this because I have never done anything stupid. Really. seriously. really damnit.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Damnit, quit bringing dictionaries into this. You are confusing me. Now I feel stupid and it is your fault. Ohhh, the pain.
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That was my old lady...
 
"If the intent of PC was to encourage a culture in which people in power had to be careful of the sensitivities of others, the reality of it was that it inhibited frank discussions. It became nearly impossible to have direct dialogue between any two groups, or even a class discussion about history, without running the risk of offending somebody. As a result, the most important conversations, in which people try to understand one another and solve problems, became more trouble than they were worth."

~Juan Williams
"Muzzled", page 55
 
It has it's advantages, when you play them against themselves.

When I taught college, I had a student who was Egyptian.

I explained to her to put AFRICAN-American on 100% of her paperwork whenever asked.
I told the one student I had from South Africa the same thing.

On the last map I checked, Egypt and South Africa were in AFRICA, so therefore they were African-American.

The student from South Africa even spoke a little ZULU.

I wonder how many American blacks can do that.

BTW...The black people in Africa as a general rule, think it very ARROGANT for American blacks to call themselves African-American.

Most are as African as I am a Frenchman. Meaning ZERO %.
 
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