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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%

  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%
  • Total voters
    182
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Moot said:
What did it say? How do you know it's spam if you didn't read it?

Wow, did you know that the south threatened to ally with Cuba and Russia if they couldn't expand slavery into the north and all of the new territories? See, you learn something new everyday?
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I saw it only a few posts above. Post the same thing too many times and it becomes spam.
 
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Glen Contrarian said:
Something to remember: people of all nations, all societies are racist...BUT in every instance, the racism committed by the dominant race is more egregious than that committed by the 'lesser' races.

Look beyond your community, your country. If you can, travel overseas a bit, and perhaps you'll learn what I did - that (after allowing for cultural mores and traditions and education) people really are the same all over the world. They really are. Remember that.
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They won't let me go overseas. They are the dominant race but not the majority.
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
Yeah war vets always lie huh? I doubt they told my granddaddy and his Benedictine company anything that wasn't true.
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Well, what about Gen. Lee...doesn't he count as a war veteran? He of all people oughta know what the south was fighting for, don't you think?
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
I saw it only a few posts above. Post the same thing too many times and it becomes spam.
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I didn't post the same thing.

You're not even reading.

You have exposed yourself as someone who just scrolls over information that might upset her applecart

You don't want to learn.

If it wasn't from your grandpapa -- it doesn't count. We know.

Or it's Yankee's talk. -- Even when shown a Robert E. Lee quote, (before you knew it was him) you said he couldn't have been from the South.

When shown it was from your beloved General -- You just doubled down on the dumbing down.

Over 8 years of dealing with you, thousands of posts - is pretty convincing evidence - you're not here to learn.

Your purpose is to vindicate your gee-papa - and the 100 year old vet in the rebel nursing home he met in the 1930's. The vet who spent most of his time in the war -- in a Union prison.
 
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Paperview said:
I didn't post the same thing.

You're not even reading.

You have exposed yourself as someone who just scrolls over information that might upset her applecart

You don't want to learn.

If it wasn't from your grandpapa -- it doesn't count. We know.

Or it's Yankee's talk. -- Even When shown a Robert E. Lee quote, (before you knew it was him) you said he couldn't have been from the South.

When shown it was from your beloved General -- You just doubled down on the dumbing down.

Over 8 years of dealing with you, thousands of posts - is pretty convincing evidence - you're not here to learn.

Your purpose is to vindicate your gee-papa.
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Well he did get it straight from the horse's mouth. Also don't post a single quote unless you intend to post it in context.
 
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Paperview said:
Timothy McVeigh was a "war vet."

Being a veteran doesn't give you some special monopoly on the Truth.
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He was mentally ill or just plain brainwashed by someone or something. That much became obvious when reading the book American Terrorist.
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
Well he did get it straight from the horse's mouth...
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From a 100 year old vet in the rebel nursing home he met in the 1930's. The vet who spent most of his time in the war -- in a Union prison.

We've been through this.

You ever care to hear things from "the horses mouth" of the slaves?
 
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Paperview said:
From a 100 year old vet in the rebel nursing home he met in the 1930's. The vet who spent most of his time in the war -- in a Union prison.

We've been through this.

You ever care to hear things from "the horses mouth" of the slaves?
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you mean 1920's. Granddaddy graduated from Benedictine in 1929. In fact it is believed by the school that he was the longest surviving member of his class when he passed away in 2005 at the age of 94. I'm sure granddaddy talked to other vets there also but William Goode was the one he talked the most about to me. And sure if any of the slaves wrote a book I would likely read it.
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
We had England, France, and other countries though. Did Canada even get in the middle of this? Or did England take care of them? I know when Saddam moved the WMD's so we wouldn't find them (which he had been doing since the 1st Gulf conflict) the rest of the world was wondering where GWB's head was.
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This is also untrue, France and Germany both had their own intelligence agencies that knew our claim was completely bogus.

Germany even told us that our source, "curveball," was unreliable.
 
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Absentglare said:
This is also untrue, France and Germany both had their own intelligence agencies that knew our claim was completely bogus.

Germany even told us that our source, "curveball," was unreliable.
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Yet they went with us and when they pulled out we got upset. Remember the Freedom fries deal?
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
Why are you laughing? I am not joking. The Confederate leaders were deeply religious men who believed that they were indeed right, in that time and place.
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Well it doesn't really matter if they thought they were right. I'm sure Fred Phelps thought he was right, too.

It's up to God who is right. He judges who gets in. Not you, and certainly not those deeply religious Confederate leaders.
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Lets stop the trolling and personal attacks.
 
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Superfly said:
Well it doesn't really matter if they thought they were right. I'm sure Fred Phelps thought he was right, too.

It's up to God who is right. He judges who gets in. Not you, and certainly not those deeply religious Confederate leaders.
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OMG that has got to be the 2nd silliest comparison I have ever heard Southern leaders compared to!
 
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1750Texan said:
No. Forming a confederation of states was act completed. The states didn't go anywhere. It was their confederation that was unconstitutional. There was no secession.
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The states left the federal union politically. This made them completely "out" for purposes of the tenth amendment. There is no obligation to go anywhere physically.
 
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Well, the South found out soon enough -- that was illegal -- and what the word "prohibited" means in the 10th.
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
Prove it.
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Wikipedia rationale for the iraq war:
"Shortly after the invasion, the Central Intelligence Agency, Defense Intelligence Agency, and other intelligence agencies largely discredited evidence related to Iraqi weapons as well as links to Al-Qaeda, at this point the Bush and Blair Administrations began to shift to secondary rationales for the war, such as the Hussein government's human rights record and promoting democracy in Iraq. Opinion polls showed that people of nearly all countries opposed a war without UN mandate and that the view of the United States as a danger to world peace had significantly increased."

Our own intelligence organizations knew we were full of ****. France NEVER joined us. Germany NEVER joined us. They all knew our **** was bogus. I don't know why Tony Blair's administration joined us, but it certainly wasn't because we were accurate.

Donald Rumsfeld, upon the Sept 11 attacks, asked for "best info fast. Judge whether good enough hit Saddam Hussein at same time. Not only Osama Bin Laden."

Better yet, read that article i linked. It tells you about the falsified evidence that was presented to the public.
 
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HorseLoverGirl said:
My granddaddy was born in 1911. He was a student at Benedictine College (and leader of Company B) in the 1920's. If the phrase had been around back then he would have been called the big man on campus. Benedictine, being a military school, has a proud tradition. Well when granddaddy was leader of Company B, he drilled them up and down the Boulevard in Richmond. Paid off too, because they won the drill competition at the school. Anyway the Old Soldier's Home is along the route where granddaddy drilled his company every day. The cadets would spend time with the old soldiers who lived there and learned more than they could ever learn from a book.
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I looked up Benedictine of Richmond VA and it's a prep school founded by Benedictine monks (as many such schools around the world were). It was a catholic school. Didn't you tell us ol' granddaddy hated catholics (and jews and, and ....etc)?
 
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VanceMack said:
1 tragic event. And rather than celebrate an incredible healing action and powerful demonstration of love and forgiveness offered by the families of the victims, people seized on a tragedy yet again to promote their cause and in the process have created and fomented further hatred. Well done? Wow? No ****. Wow.
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Love and forgiveness are wonderful things. That doesn't mean we have to tolerate the lies and racism that still exists in this country. For forgiveness to be truly meaningful the guilty need to acknowledge their atrocities and we're not hearing any of that from the usual apologists for slavery and subjugation of black people in this country. If anything, they've become more brazen in their defiance of all norms of civilized behavior.
 
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digitusmedius said:
I looked up Benedictine of Richmond VA and it's a prep school founded by Benedictine monks (as many such schools around the world were). It was a catholic school. Didn't you tell us ol' granddaddy hated catholics (and jews and, and ....etc)?
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Yeah its ironic but he loved his alma mater til the day he died. I think it more the military tradition and the athletics that he treasured. He played football and rowed with crew.
 
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