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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%

  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%
  • Total voters
    182
Re: Confederate Flag

VanceMack said:
They just shouldnt do it because a bunch of cause driven morons have had their strings pulled by a group of race baiting assholes.
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You mean that silly event like the cold blooded murder of 9 black men and women in their church by a white supremacist? That sort of "cause driven" action? Wow. Just WOW.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

HorseLoverGirl said:
Like I said, piece of scum attacks women and children because it is simply a piece of scum. My ancestors fell victim to this thing and its cohorts. Like I said, if there is any justice in this world, that scum is burning in hell.
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How about all the Confederate slaveholders?

Where are they burning?
 
Re: Confederate Flag

HorseLoverGirl said:
Except when the Southern states acceded to the union, they made it clear that they had the right to secede from the union.
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On what constitutional basis did the south believe it had the right to secede? Is there a clause somewhere in the rightwing, white-supremacist version of the Constitution that reads: "and if any of the states don't like the way things are going can leave any time they wish?" I guess there must be because rightwingers still toss out the idea of secession every time the constutional process the governs the entire country doesn't bow to their extremist ideology.
 
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Superfly said:
Did Granddaddy tell you that, or did you read it in the Daughters of the Confederacy magazine?
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"Granddaddy" apparently had an answer for everything and it was wrong every time.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Paperview said:
How about all the Confederate slaveholders?

Where are they burning?
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You are aware the bible condones slavery, right? I imagine if hell exists it would come down to how they treated their slaves, not if they had slaves.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

HorseLoverGirl said:
The north was pushing their "rights" onto the South, and the South got tired of it. The north hated state's rights if they couldn't force the South to cave.
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How did the north push their rights on the south if they were in the north? The South would've had to go north for the north to push their rights on them.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

HorseLoverGirl said:
As if the title wasn't fairly self explanatory? Read the documents of the states when they joined the union to begin with.
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The only document that matters is the Constitution of 1787...and there ain't one word about secession. there is this however...
ARTICLE I
Section. 10. No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws; and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
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Many of these things were done by the confederation of southern states without the consent of congress, the US Constitution, or the American people.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

HorseLoverGirl said:
No they were patriots who exercised their right to secede from a tyrannical union.
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And lost, thus making them traitors. If you believe in a god of judgment that intervenes in human activity then that god chose the northern cause not yours.
 
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Re: Confederate Flag

HorseLoverGirl said:
Saddam had WMD's, we know that. He was slicker than GWB ever knew. Besides when we invaded and took out Saddam, the rest of the world had our backs.
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Good christ, is there no horseshyt you don't believe?
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Henrin said:
You are aware the bible condones slavery, right? I imagine if hell exists it would come down to how they treated their slaves, not if they had slaves.
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That's true. God approved of human trafficking.


But smites you to hell if you happen to love and want to marry someone of the same gender.

Gee, thanks God!
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Paperview said:
That's true. God approved of human trafficking.
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Quote that please.


But smites you to hell if you happen to love and want to marry someone of the same gender.

Gee, thanks God![/QUOTE]
 
Re: Confederate Flag

digitusmedius said:
And lost, thus making them traitors. If you believe in a god of judgment that intervenes in human activity then that god chose the northern cause not yours.
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Same ridiculousness could apply to the founders of this nation. Oh wait, England grew up and got over the fact that we broke away.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

1750Texan said:
The only document that matters is the Constitution of 1787...and there ain't one word about secession. there is this however...


Many of these things were done by the confederation of southern states without the consent of congress, the US Constitution, or the American people.
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Figures you reject history that doesn't fit your agenda. How typical.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Moot said:
How did the north push their rights on the south if they were in the north? The South would've had to go north for the north to push their rights on them.
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Its called Congress. The north had the votes, the South couldn't override them.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

digitusmedius said:
On what constitutional basis did the south believe it had the right to secede? Is there a clause somewhere in the rightwing, white-supremacist version of the Constitution that reads: "and if any of the states don't like the way things are going can leave any time they wish?" I guess there must be because rightwingers still toss out the idea of secession every time the constutional process the governs the entire country doesn't bow to their extremist ideology.
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:lol: The South did not have to place their right to secede in the Constitution for it to be a right. They made it more than clear that when they acceded to the union they had the right to secede from the union. Had they not made that right clear, they would likely have formed their own country sooner.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

Paperview said:
How about all the Confederate slaveholders?

Where are they burning?
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You mean yankee slaveholders. Don't forget slavery was rampant up north also. The Confederate leaders are in heaven. Who knows where the yanks wound up. We know sherman is in the innermost circle of hell.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

HorseLoverGirl said:
:lol: The South did not have to place their right to secede in the Constitution for it to be a right. They made it more than clear that when they acceded to the union they had the right to secede from the union. Had they not made that right clear, they would likely have formed their own country sooner.
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Except they chose to do so just after an election happened and their canidates had lost.
 
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