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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%
  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%

  • Total voters
    182
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So, when faced with the fact that racism wasn't at the root of issues between the north and south, as both sides were racist against the black man.... you decide to claim this...


And then tuck tail and run.


Noted....
I'm not sure which is worse, your misreading/misunderstanding of the context of the original post, or the claims of "running away". I mean, that is some kind of superiority delusions being posted.
 
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I'm not sure which is worse, your misreading/misunderstanding of the context of the original post, or the claims of "running away". I mean, that is some kind of superiority delusions being posted.

Or is it you can't bring yourself to admit that racism had little to do with the quarrel between the north and south.... and that the north is no more "righteous" than the south when it comes to racism?

The Slavery dispute between the north and south was about economics against morality. Not racism against racial equality.
 
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You are not reading my posts, I asked you what percent of segregationists voted for Thurmond...because you brought it up:

Someone mentioned Strom Thurmond so I merely reminded them that he was not the only one who switched parties. But there must have been more segregationists in this state than I know about because he managed to get reelected about 5 danged times.

You admit there were a lot of them, I just hoped you had some insight into the level of support he had among segregationists, which is why I asked you to elaborate.

How many times do I have to tell you that there is not exactly any polls taking anyone's views on race on election day. There is really no way to know their views. However knowing the good ol boy network like I do, its not surprising if there are more segregationists than I know about here. Same holds true for both Carolinas.
 
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Or is it you can't bring yourself to admit that racism had little to do with the quarrel between the north and south.... and that the north is no more "righteous" than the south when it comes to racism?

The Slavery dispute between the north and south was about economics against morality. Not racism against racial equality.
Why do you keep on insisting that you think you understand the context of the post....even after it was implied that you ought to do a tiny bit of research?
 
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How many times do I have to tell you that there is not exactly any polls taking anyone's views on race on election day.
I never asked for "polls", I asked for your insight on a subject you commented on. If you have really no idea what you are talking about, I'll accept that answer too.


There is really no way to know their views. However knowing the good ol boy network like I do, its not surprising if there are more segregationists than I know about here. Same holds true for both Carolinas.
So here we are again, you are saying you have some insight into this topic, but you won't give any estimates on the percentage of segregationists that supported Thurmond or Helms.
 
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1. I may not agree with you on much but you,
2. sir?/ma'am?,
3. are no moron.

1. Few do
2. Unknown
3. You are denying me part of my charm?
 
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I never asked for "polls", I asked for your insight on a subject you commented on. If you have really no idea what you are talking about, I'll accept that answer too.


So here we are again, you are saying you have some insight into this topic, but you won't give any estimates on the percentage of segregationists that supported Thurmond or Helms.

I am tired of repeating myself because you can't seem to comprehend. Of course being from the Southwest that makes sense. You really have to live here to get a feel for things
 
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I am tired of repeating myself because you can't seem to comprehend. Of course being from the Southwest that makes sense. You really have to live here to get a feel for things
You keep repeating what I am not asking for, you haven't expanded on what you supposedly do have some insight on, you just keep on avoiding the subject you brought up, segregationists. I can understand your trepidation in discussing them, what I don't understand is this attempt to divert with an ad hominem about the region I live in. We have lots and lots of racists here, they just go after Mexicans, but it is almost the same story, one of hypocrisy, lies and revisionism. I have a fairly good idea on what percentage of segregationists supported Helms and Thurmond (it was very high) and I didn't need you to confirm it, it was more a test to see how honest you could be about it....and you answered that.
 
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Should the Confederate Flag be removed/abolished?

I say no. The argument is that it represents racism and slavery. That is stupid. So does the American Flag.

If "removing/abolishing the Confederate Flag" would actually create racial harmony in America; I would personally buy a prime-time commercial slot and burn the Stars&Bars on live network television myself!

Unfortunately; these warm-fuzzy-feel-good-solutions empower people who perceive it as weakness and make further accusations of "racism" followed up by more ridiculous demands which continuously escalate the problem!

And politician's who propose these ridiculous fixes, don't care about anything but scoring political points!

The only way America can fix its race relations is to abandon political correctness and lose its white guilt!

Surely I'm not the only one here that can see all these obvious realities?!
 
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Who cares whose ethnicity is what? My ethnicity if you want to call it that is English, Irish, and Scottish on mom's side with a little bit of French and German on dad's side thrown in for good measure. Also my great grandfather was a member of the Yakama nation. BOY did he hate the Japanese though! They would have stayed in interment camps forever if he had his way! Still ethnicity doesn't matter. Why you keep assuming things I don't know.

You really don't have to continue running away from the question. We've got the answer. Anything you post now is just more evidence of the supremacist tendencies your granddaddy instilled in you.
 
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Sure, what if? Yet, for the north it was built-in to the DNA of our republic. If you can show me anywhere in the founding documents of the confederacy, any intention or desire to make all men free and equal, I will gladly stand corrected.
No. As of 1860 there were actually more free blacks in the south than in the north. Black Confederates had much more freedoms than those in the north. This war was not about slavery, It was about power & control for Lincoln who is the biggest racist of them all. Oh & he LOVED the Marxists.

Here's 10 quotes from Lincoln..you decide if he's a hero...

http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/05...s-quotes-abraham-lincoln-said-black-people/3/

"Lincoln was, indeed, a white supremacist. In his 1858 debate with Sen. Steven Douglas, Lincoln maintained, “And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”

And this written by a Confederate on the horrendous way blacks were treated by Union soldiers...
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Any state that joined the Confederacy....was "all about" slavery. It was the economic and ideological cornerstone of the Confederacy.

Just like every blue state today does their best to keep their black population in poverty to buy their votes.
 
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Interesting the outrage over what used to be considering the "progressive" programming of blacks today. Don't marry (or we'll take your check away), abort your children or use them as collateral for government programs.
 
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The states right's to keep slaves maybe? Also, the states that seceded, were engaged in a war against the United States Government. Fort Sumter anyone? They started the war because a man they deemed "hostile to slavery" was elected President.
 
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The states right's to keep slaves maybe? Also, the states that seceded, were engaged in a war against the United States Government. Fort Sumter anyone? They started the war because a man they deemed "hostile to slavery" was elected President.

Frankly my dear, I don't give a d***. Rhett Butler/Gone with the Wind
 
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Frankly my dear, I don't give a d***. Rhett Butler/Gone with the Wind

I saw it in the window, and I just had to have it. Carol Burnette-spoofing Gone With the Wind
 
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Know what they say about assuming?

No assumption has been made. You had a chance to answer an easy question with a simple "yes" or "no," and you opted for avoiding answering altogether. Your non-answer leaves no room for doubt about your supremacist ideas. It's actually a bit of a testimony that you have enough honesty not to lie outright about it and that you're somewhat ashamed of what your answer is. So there's hope for you....slim to be sure but hope, nonetheless. BTW, you didn't learn how to say "there only one race, the human race" from granddaddy. That's a cop-out attempt to use politically correctness to sound tolerant.
 
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The states right's to keep slaves maybe? Also, the states that seceded, were engaged in a war against the United States Government. Fort Sumter anyone? They started the war because a man they deemed "hostile to slavery" was elected President.

They fired on Fort Sumnter because federal troops refused to leave CSA lands. Its not like they just showed up and started blasting fools.... They gave them the opportunity to peacefully return to USA lands.
 
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