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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%
  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%

  • Total voters
    182
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That has happened all over the country. That's why those who want people executed quicker need to simmer down. I guess they don't care that they might be killing an innocent person

Well, I be dogged. We agree on something.
 
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Complete evasion mode? Please. Glad you at least see that the Irish were treated like crap though.

Every new immigrant group was treated like crap. And it's still happening. Another shameful part of our history. Not nearly like slavery which was many orders of magnitude worse.
 
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Who the heck are you talking to?

You and you know it. It's the third time I've the question about white/north-central European superiority (or not) of you and as many evasions (including this one that you responded to pretending not to know who it was intended for). But as I've said before, your unwilling to answer tells us what we need to know.
 
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HorseGirl is a nice enough gal, and on other subjects, quite reasonable. I know - I've had literally thousands of interactions with her over a period of several years.

I can dispell the notion she is a White Supremacist, she's not. She even leans liberal on most things.

She is however, thoroughly tied to her granddaddy's view of the Confederacy in a rather childlike innocence that has remained with her. Nothing, and I do mean - nothing - you can say will dissuade her of the fables she was told as a child, which she believes to be absolute truth.

What she gleans from 99% is what she heard gpapa - in an Confederate Old Age home -- from an over 100 year old rebel in the 1930's heard, and her being told this late in his life i(n the 1990's, as I recall).

In fact, I even looked up the Soldier History of the rebel vet her gpapa told her about, and presented her with the details of him being thrown in a Union prison for most of the war (yeah, that couldn't have had any effect....)

The other 1% comes from the (completely debunked) Kennedy Twins "The South Was Right."

She will not look at any information presented outside of those sources. No matter what/

Trust me on this. Believe me, I've tried. Beyond that, she's a genuinely nice gal.

The South Was Right is a White Supremacist/ Southern nationalist publication. She insisted that people should read that book, meaning that she is promoting that position. In reality that makes her a White Supremacist/ Southern nationalist proponent. I mean you cant read that book and not walk away with that impression, it would be impossible. So she knows exactly what she is saying and why she is saying it.

What it shows is the reason why the Confederate flag is often viewed to represent hate. The South Was Right is direct evidence against any argument that the confederate flag has any place on public property outside of actually being in a museum.
 
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lol. I remember you from the *H* debate board a few years back.

We had many an interaction....and your posts were so thoroughly demolished, but it looks like you haven't gained much since.

One of my favorites of yours was how the Confederate Constitution never once mentioned slavery. lol

That was golden!

Yeah cave to political correctness all you please, I will stay true to my heritage
 
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You and you know it. It's the third time I've the question about white/north-central European superiority (or not) of you and as many evasions (including this one that you responded to pretending not to know who it was intended for). But as I've said before, your unwilling to answer tells us what we need to know.

How many times do I have to tell you, the only race is freaking human
 
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The WHITE segregationists of NC loved him. Your point?

Someone mentioned Strom Thurmond so I merely reminded them that he was not the only one who switched parties. But there must have been more segregationists in this state than I know about because he managed to get reelected about 5 danged times.
 
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Every new immigrant group was treated like crap. And it's still happening. Another shameful part of our history. Not nearly like slavery which was many orders of magnitude worse.

Slavery was no picnic but only a minority of the South owned slaves anyway. Its wasn't as rampant as the majority of history books make you think
 
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Slavery was no picnic but only a minority of the South owned slaves anyway. Its wasn't as rampant as the majority of history books make you think
Wow.

The subject was not the percentage of owners, but the level of discrimination different population groups in the US faced.

This is a whopper of a non-sequitur.
 
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Someone mentioned Strom Thurmond so I merely reminded them that he was not the only one who switched parties. But there must have been more segregationists in this state than I know about because he managed to get reelected about 5 danged times.
By all means....go on...
 
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Go on with what? Its the truth. Jesse Helms was loved by a lot of people.
Uh, you were talking about the level of voters who hold to segregationist views that voted for Thurmond....and I asked you to continue on discussing THAT idea......but suddenly you switch to discussing Helms!

OK.

Let's go with that.....what percent of voters that held to segregationist views voted for Helms?
 
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It's probably best not to assume and bullying her into a response is probably not a good idea, either. Rebels don't like to be told what to do, doncha know? Ya gotta let em save face or they will never see your point.

I really don't gotta let them save face. They didn't ever do anything to earn the right to that.
 
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How many times do I have to tell you, the only race is freaking human

I'm not asking you about races. I'm asking you about ethnicities. You obviously do think light skinned people whose heritage is northern and central European are superior to people from any other place on the planet. You don't have to keep this silly game of evading the question. You've already told us this by playing that game. Game's over. You are a Eurosupremacist.
 
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Someone mentioned Strom Thurmond so I merely reminded them that he was not the only one who switched parties. But there must have been more segregationists in this state than I know about because he managed to get reelected about 5 danged times.

That's nothing any state should brag about.
 
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Slavery was no picnic but only a minority of the South owned slaves anyway. Its wasn't as rampant as the majority of history books make you think

And yet the entire region went to war over it. Ever wonder why poor, landless southern boys and men were so eager to die to protect the human property of rich men?
 
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Wow.

The subject was not the percentage of owners, but the level of discrimination different population groups in the US faced.

This is a whopper of a non-sequitur.

This and evasion are two of horsegirl's specialties, it seems.
 
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I really don't gotta let them save face. They didn't ever do anything to earn the right to that.

Well, you do what you gotta do.
 
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And yet the entire region went to war over it. Ever wonder why poor, landless southern boys and men were so eager to die to protect the human property of rich men?

That's where research comes in. You will learn that slavery was not the overall main issue.
 
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