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Confederate Flag[W:1518,2230, 2241]

Should the Confederate Flag be abolished?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 30.2%
  • No

    Votes: 127 69.8%

  • Total voters
    182
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So you are unable to produce any actual posts from anyone showing anything of the EPIC FAIL that you boasted while donning the striped shirt of the impartial judge.

Got it loud and clear.

:lol: That is not how it works... you need to produce actual posts that show that she WAS referring to specifically to "slavery" and not to anything that could be construed as "nuanced".

:lol: You are funny... the way you debate!
 
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So who was it that a couple of years in went back and dated those statements scission back to the start of the war?

SOME states, Mississippi for one, were all about it, but it was not an overall main issue until the yanks made it one.
 
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Start with reading The South was Right. /QUOTE]

I don't know if I've ever run across anyone so willing to be identified as a white supremacist on a forum before. The honesty is almost refreshing but it's chilling to be reminded that there are quite a few of these anachronisms still around.
 
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SOME states, Mississippi for one, were all about it, but it was not an overall main issue until the yanks made it one.

I'd love to see your evidence for those states who weren't trying to preserve and extend slavery but just decided to go to war because the North made them do it. Golly it's fun to see what you'll come up with next.
 
Re: Confederate Flag

:lol: That is not how it works... you need to produce actual posts that show that she WAS referring to specifically to "slavery" and not to anything that could be construed as "nuanced".

:lol: You are funny... the way you debate!

The way it works is if YOU claim I failed at something it is incumbent upon YOU to do the work and produce the exact posts with explanation as to why I failed.

YOU have the responsibility and I have no responsibility to lift my little finger to help YOU.

No wonder YOU think I debate funny as YOU have absolutely no concept of how it works.

You get the theme there? Its about YOU and YOUR own ability to back up your pronouncements when you put on the referee shirt and shout EPIC FAIL . Its your responsibility - not mine.
 
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Re: Confederate Flag

:lol: That is not how it works... you need to produce actual posts that show that she WAS referring to specifically to "slavery" and not to anything that could be construed as "nuanced".

This is the usual rigthwing m.o.--make big claims and then claim it's up to others to prove them wrong. They don't have to put up any facts at all. Then, when someone does show what BS it all was, the wingers just continue to pump out the same BS time and time again.
 
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SOME states, Mississippi for one, were all about it, but it was not an overall main issue until the yanks made it one.

Have you even read the statements of secession? If you have, that statement is utterly false not to mention absurd in the extreme as it is a blatant denial of the historical record produced by the seceding states themselves.
 
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This is the usual rigthwing m.o.--make big claims and then claim it's up to others to prove them wrong. They don't have to put up any facts at all. Then, when someone does show what BS it all was, the wingers just continue to pump out the same BS time and time again.

It is terribly sad that some here do not even understand the basic fundamentals of debate and how it works.
 
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I'm long used to rightwingers whining when they've been smacked down. BTW, horsegirl didn't even bother to react to my comment which gave her plenty of room to protest. She also declined to give us any specifics about all what her grandaddy taught her when requested. Then suggested we read "The South Was Right." If that aint white supremacy talkin' it aint talkin' at all. Grab a hanky.
 
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I'd love to see your evidence for those states who weren't trying to preserve and extend slavery but just decided to go to war because the North made them do it. Golly it's fun to see what you'll come up with next.

Here ya go...

In 1860, during the presidential election, further discord between the pro-Union and pro-secession Democrats and successful Whig appeals to North Carolinians' patriotism deepened divisions in the state, thereby preventing any group from gaining enough power to enact their proposed platforms. The state thus did not act on the secession question until after the battle at Fort Sumter. Even then, Boyd asserts, North Carolina only grudgingly left the Union to avoid "fighting against the South" (p.177).

The above is from that bastion of Liberalism and Progressive thinking, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. I can give you some other links to other sources regarding North Carolina, or you can do some research on your own rather than just believing the revisionist history that all the south wanted, everyone in the south, was a pro-slavery hatemongering evil monster.
 
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Start with reading The South was Right.

I don't know if I've ever run across anyone so willing to be identified as a white supremacist on a forum before. The honesty is almost refreshing but it's chilling to be reminded that there are quite a few of these anachronisms still around.

Except those of us who actually read are not White Supremacists but educated
 
Re: Confederate Flag

I'm long used to rightwingers whining when they've been smacked down. BTW, horsegirl didn't even bother to react to my comment which gave her plenty of room to protest. She also declined to give us any specifics about all what her grandaddy taught her when requested. Then suggested we read "The South Was Right." If that aint white supremacy talkin' it aint talkin' at all. Grab a hanky.

Like I said, most of my historical research is in heaven now. Sorry to burst some bubbles.
 
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I've heard that about England but never France. I won't even bother asking you for references since I know that's a dry hole.
 
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Here ya go...



The above is from that bastion of Liberalism and Progressive thinking, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. I can give you some other links to other sources regarding North Carolina, or you can do some research on your own rather than just believing the revisionist history that all the south wanted, everyone in the south, was a pro-slavery hatemongering evil monster.

Thank you!!!! Its really sad that people will never understand truth
 
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Did you ever answer my question about how you rank the races?
 
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You say you're not a WS and then refer us to a book that's all about that.
 
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I'm glad to see a pic of Goldwater. He had some fine qualities but I always like to use him as an example when rightwingers try to claim the republican party was the party of civil rights in his day. As far as I've been able to learn he voted against all the civil rights acts that came up while he was a senator including the 1964 CRA, which was the year the republican party nominated him for president. Funny, eh?
 
Re: Confederate Flag

The way it works is if YOU claim I failed at something it is incumbent upon YOU to do the work and produce the exact posts with explanation as to why I failed.

YOU have the responsibility and I have no responsibility to lift my little finger to help YOU.

No wonder YOU think I debate funny as YOU have absolutely no concept of how it works.

You get the theme there? Its about YOU and YOUR own ability to back up your pronouncements when you put on the referee shirt and shout EPIC FAIL . Its your responsibility - not mine.

:lol:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/227177-confederate-flag-56.html#post1064758781

I made a statement that YOU challenged in which YOU asked me to clarify something that I wasn't even talking about.

I think we are done here... buh-bye.
 
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