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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    Go on with what? Its the truth. Jesse Helms was loved by a lot of RACIST people.
    Fixed. You're welcome

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    I really don't gotta let them save face. They didn't ever do anything to earn the right to that.
    Well, you do what you gotta do.

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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    Fixed. You're welcome
    Like I said, he was loved by a lot of people.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    This and evasion are two of horsegirl's specialties, it seems.
    I got your definition of "evasion" down pat. Its not telling you what you want to hear
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    And yet the entire region went to war over it. Ever wonder why poor, landless southern boys and men were so eager to die to protect the human property of rich men?
    That's where research comes in. You will learn that slavery was not the overall main issue.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    That's nothing any state should brag about.
    Yeah ol Jesse told it as is, and he was loved by plenty and hated by plenty. Obviously loved by more because the state of NC elected the man over and over
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    That's where research comes in. You will learn that slavery was not the overall main issue.
    The written statements from seceding states say the direct opposite.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by digitusmedius View Post
    I'm not asking you about races. I'm asking you about ethnicities. You obviously do think light skinned people whose heritage is northern and central European are superior to people from any other place on the planet. You don't have to keep this silly game of evading the question. You've already told us this by playing that game. Game's over. You are a Eurosupremacist.
    Who cares whose ethnicity is what? My ethnicity if you want to call it that is English, Irish, and Scottish on mom's side with a little bit of French and German on dad's side thrown in for good measure. Also my great grandfather was a member of the Yakama nation. BOY did he hate the Japanese though! They would have stayed in interment camps forever if he had his way! Still ethnicity doesn't matter. Why you keep assuming things I don't know.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The written statements from seceding states say the direct opposite.
    You gonna base the entire South on Mississippi? Please. You're gonna make us all look bad.
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    Re: Confederate Flag

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseLoverGirl View Post
    You gonna base the entire South on Mississippi? Please. You're gonna make us all look bad.
    I have no idea why you are limiting the statements of secession to Mississippi.

    Why are you ignoring this - from the infamous Cornerstone Speech of cConfederate States of America Vice President Alexander Stephens on March 21, 1861

    The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away... Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of a Government built upon it—when the "storm came and the wind blew, it fell."
    He leaves no doubt as to the purpose of the Confederacy.
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