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Are you more or less likely to vote Trump after his speech from last night?

Are you more or less likely to vote for the Donald.

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I think a lot of people have seen it, or heard parts of it, but it is out there, coming down the escalator, with rocking in the free world blasting (without permission, from a Canadian who supports Bernie Sanders), comes the Donald.

Here are some of the beauties from that speech:
When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

Isn't it heartwarming to know that at least, or so he assumes a few Mexicans that come to the US are "good people", he does not know but he assumes.

:2wave: Can you say bye bye Latino vote? And his birther status will make him unlikely to attract a lot of African American voters.

Here is what he had to say too:

They will never make America great again. They don’t even have a chance. They’re controlled fully — they’re controlled fully by the lobbyists, by the donors, and by the special interests, fully.

Mr. Trump, you mean your buddies? Your fellow job creators? Mr. Trump is a special interest IMO, a man who want to buy power (which is what special interest is) for what he thinks is the right thing to happen.

Let me give you the bad news. Every car and every truck and every part manufactured in this plant that comes across the border, we’re going to charge you a 35-percent tax, and that tax is going to be paid simultaneously with the transaction, and that’s it.

So not only does he want to start a trade war with China (which is a no win solution) he wants the American people to pay 35% (or close to it) for their cars and parts. That is going to make him real popular with Ford and other car owners who also happen to have factories across the border.

And how is the Donald going to bring back jobs? Because if he starts trade wars with other countries, how does he think that brings back jobs? This coming from a man who wants to go back to Iraq and take oil from the Iraqi's because in Trump's mind, Iraq owes the US money.

But that's stealing, the guy thinks because the US "won the war" the US has the right to all the Iraqi's natural resources.

A man who complains that China is taking US jobs, and then lets his clothing brand be produced IN CHINA!!!!!

A man who is so loving of his own accomplishments that he needed to give his exact net worth to the listening public.

And the Trump was standing there and was telling totally untrue statements to the public. He had a huge company of accountants working for him, preparing his filing with the government and tallying up his "net worth".

If he had that many people, could he have hired 1 or 2 to check facts before he was going to make them public?

Here are just a few of the "false" information he had to bring to the public:


- Trump claimed that economic growth has “never” been below zero until last quarter’s drop, which is far from true. It has been below zero 42 times since 1946.

- He said “there are no jobs” to be had. In fact, there were 5.4 million job openings recorded at the end of April, the most in 15 years.

- He said the “real” unemployment rate is “anywhere from 18 to 20 percent” and “maybe even 21 percent.” We see no factual basis for this opinion.

- He boasted he would have blocked new Ford plants in Mexico by threatening to impose a 35 percent tax on vehicles and parts made in Mexico and shipped to the U.S. But only Congress can impose taxes and such a tax would violate the North American Free Trade Agreement.

- Trump claimed the five Taliban leaders exchanged for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “are now back on the battlefield trying to kill us.” But all five remain in Qatar, where they continue to be monitored and are subject to a travel ban, according to the State Department.

- He also made the misleading claim that health care premium costs are going “up 29, 39, 49 and even 55 percent.” He’s talking about some proposed rate increases on the individual market that still need regulatory approval. There are also proposed rate decreases or single-digit increases that did not have to be submitted for review.

- He said there are no chevy's in Japan, not true, there are some. But if you produce left hand drive models for a right hand drive country, your sales are not going to be that spectacular.

- The Donald stated that ISIL had built a luxury hotel in Syria. Not true, they stole a hotel in Iraq which they are now using as luxury barracks, not a hotel.


And lastly, for the people who want to read the Donald's whole speech, you can find a transcript here Donald Trump Transcript: ‘Our Country Needs a Truly Great Leader’ - Washington Wire - WSJ
 
It was never a question, there is almost no chance that Trump gets my vote. We have enough narcissistic camera happy lunatics up on the hill without electing Trump to the White House.
 
Trump isn't going to get the nomination so it's a non-starter.

Seriously, (whackos notwithstanding,) who actually takes a Trump candidacy seriously? I am reminded of when Kinky Freedman, the "Texas Jew-Boy," ran for governor of Texas.

I find The Donald to be VERY entertaining. But I didn't vote for Pat Paulson in 1968 and I ain't gonna vote for Donald Trump in '16. Neither is any other serious voter.

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It a mistake for anyone to think he is a real candidate, he would need to give up his NBC job. Given that Fox will take only 10 candidate in their debate, Trump has the potential knocking out a real candidate.
 
Trump will get exactly zero votes in the primaries because he will make no effort to have his name on any of the ballots. He is doing this for publicity alone. That said, you would think he would know by now that the negative publicity his moronic statements will bring will only harm his reputation. But I guess not.
 
I'd rather jack off a polar bear with a fistful of tacks then vote for the Donald.
 
He actually is pretty credible compared to several of the clown on the GOP ticket.
 
It a mistake for anyone to think he is a real candidate, he would need to give up his NBC job. Given that Fox will take only 10 candidate in their debate, Trump has the potential knocking out a real candidate.

Once you get past the first 2 or 3....there aren't any real candidates in the race.
 
I'd rather jack off a polar bear with a fistful of tacks then vote for the Donald.

Are you speaking from experience? Sorry, I had to ask.
 
I think a lot of people have seen it, or heard parts of it, but it is out there, coming down the escalator, with rocking in the free world blasting (without permission, from a Canadian who supports Bernie Sanders), comes the Donald.

Here are some of the beauties from that speech:


Isn't it heartwarming to know that at least, or so he assumes a few Mexicans that come to the US are "good people", he does not know but he assumes.

:2wave: Can you say bye bye Latino vote? And his birther status will make him unlikely to attract a lot of African American voters.

Here is what he had to say too:



Mr. Trump, you mean your buddies? Your fellow job creators? Mr. Trump is a special interest IMO, a man who want to buy power (which is what special interest is) for what he thinks is the right thing to happen.



So not only does he want to start a trade war with China (which is a no win solution) he wants the American people to pay 35% (or close to it) for their cars and parts. That is going to make him real popular with Ford and other car owners who also happen to have factories across the border.

And how is the Donald going to bring back jobs? Because if he starts trade wars with other countries, how does he think that brings back jobs? This coming from a man who wants to go back to Iraq and take oil from the Iraqi's because in Trump's mind, Iraq owes the US money.

But that's stealing, the guy thinks because the US "won the war" the US has the right to all the Iraqi's natural resources.

A man who complains that China is taking US jobs, and then lets his clothing brand be produced IN CHINA!!!!!

A man who is so loving of his own accomplishments that he needed to give his exact net worth to the listening public.

And the Trump was standing there and was telling totally untrue statements to the public. He had a huge company of accountants working for him, preparing his filing with the government and tallying up his "net worth".

If he had that many people, could he have hired 1 or 2 to check facts before he was going to make them public?

Here are just a few of the "false" information he had to bring to the public:


- Trump claimed that economic growth has “never” been below zero until last quarter’s drop, which is far from true. It has been below zero 42 times since 1946.

- He said “there are no jobs” to be had. In fact, there were 5.4 million job openings recorded at the end of April, the most in 15 years.

- He said the “real” unemployment rate is “anywhere from 18 to 20 percent” and “maybe even 21 percent.” We see no factual basis for this opinion.

- He boasted he would have blocked new Ford plants in Mexico by threatening to impose a 35 percent tax on vehicles and parts made in Mexico and shipped to the U.S. But only Congress can impose taxes and such a tax would violate the North American Free Trade Agreement.

- Trump claimed the five Taliban leaders exchanged for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl “are now back on the battlefield trying to kill us.” But all five remain in Qatar, where they continue to be monitored and are subject to a travel ban, according to the State Department.

- He also made the misleading claim that health care premium costs are going “up 29, 39, 49 and even 55 percent.” He’s talking about some proposed rate increases on the individual market that still need regulatory approval. There are also proposed rate decreases or single-digit increases that did not have to be submitted for review.

- He said there are no chevy's in Japan, not true, there are some. But if you produce left hand drive models for a right hand drive country, your sales are not going to be that spectacular.

- The Donald stated that ISIL had built a luxury hotel in Syria. Not true, they stole a hotel in Iraq which they are now using as luxury barracks, not a hotel.


And lastly, for the people who want to read the Donald's whole speech, you can find a transcript here Donald Trump Transcript: ‘Our Country Needs a Truly Great Leader’ - Washington Wire - WSJ

Hilarious how worked up you are, and you're not even American!

Nothing Trump said was untrue. He might be a bit rough around the edges, but that's his style.
 
I think Willie Nelson should run.
 
My chances of voting him went from zero to zero, which is neither an increase nor a decrease.

I know, I know, I just broke your poll. :2razz:
 
Why God why?

I'm just glad that one does not identify as libertarian anymore. It's bad enough that people think the whack jobs over at the tea party are libertarians. Last thing we need is more whacko impersonators.
 
Why God why?
Probably because of gay marriage.
God hates that stuff and has punished us with this alleged Trump candidacy.
Oh, well......as punishments go, this is much better than hurricanes or earthquakes.
 
Hilarious how worked up you are, and you're not even American!

Nothing Trump said was untrue. He might be a bit rough around the edges, but that's his style.

Really? So when he said:

Trump said, “Last quarter, it was just announced, our gross domestic product – a sign of strength, right? But not for us. It was below zero. Who ever heard of this? It’s never below zero.”

It's never below zero? Except in the 1st quarter of 2014, 1st quarter of 2011, first and second quarter of 2009, in 2008 it happened in the first, third and fourth quater, in 2001 in the first and third quarter, 1st quarter 1991, fourth quarter 1990. It even happened in four quarters under Ronald Reagan.

So to say it is never below zero is nonsense, that just is untrue.

He also said, he also said that there are no jobs (which is untrue, there are 5.4 million jobs to be had). You can find the fact checkers pages, they just all find the same thing.

Isis has not built a hotel. Mexicans aren't all rapists and criminals.

He said, we owe China about 1.3 trillion and Japan even more than that. Which is incorrect, the US owes Japan less than it owes the Chinese.

He cannot tax 35% on Mexican car parts, the president has no tax powers, that is congress.
 
My chances of voting him went from zero to zero, which is neither an increase nor a decrease.

I know, I know, I just broke your poll. :2razz:

I know, but I am only given 10 options and for that option there was no room.
 
It was never a question, there is almost no chance that Trump gets my vote. We have enough narcissistic camera happy lunatics up on the hill without electing Trump to the White House.

Tell it, bro.

Someone once said that the most dangerous place in America is between Sen. Chuck Schumer and a camera. :lamo That's fact in my book.
 
Really? So when he said:

Trump said, “Last quarter, it was just announced, our gross domestic product – a sign of strength, right? But not for us. It was below zero. Who ever heard of this? It’s never below zero.”

It's never below zero? Except in the 1st quarter of 2014, 1st quarter of 2011, first and second quarter of 2009, in 2008 it happened in the first, third and fourth quater, in 2001 in the first and third quarter, 1st quarter 1991, fourth quarter 1990. It even happened in four quarters under Ronald Reagan.

So to say it is never below zero is nonsense, that just is untrue.

He also said, he also said that there are no jobs (which is untrue, there are 5.4 million jobs to be had). You can find the fact checkers pages, they just all find the same thing.

Isis has not built a hotel. Mexicans aren't all rapists and criminals.

He said, we owe China about 1.3 trillion and Japan even more than that. Which is incorrect, the US owes Japan less than it owes the Chinese.

He cannot tax 35% on Mexican car parts, the president has no tax powers, that is congress.

You're stuck on the word "never," he wasn't being literal... he was purposely overstating in order to magnify the economic problem he was trying to highlight.

In fact, I think that's where you're tripped up, generally. He's a crass, upper class New Yorker.... many of them talk that way. "There are no jobs" means there aren't many jobs. "We owe China the world" means we owe China a lot of money.

He's clearly not an artful speaker or a politician... but I happen to like that. I've had enough wordsmiths, I would like to see someone in office who can push, drive the bus, and get things accomplished. Trump, for what he lacks in diplomacy and artful language, makes up for it by being effective.
 
How do they say it down Texas way? All hat and no cattle?

I bet he does well in Texas.

take that back...he's a dam'd yankee from new yoooork city!

he'll do better among northern and mid western Republicans, i'd imagine.... though I doubt he'll do very well at all.
 
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