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Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

Would this solve the illegal immigration issue?

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How would that stop illegals from starting their own businesses? [which the law basically allows in most states]
 
SlevinKelevra said:
Also, it seems like you're in favor of executing 10-20M instead of far fewer # of employers.

My solution seems more efficient.
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We are allowed to shoot trespassers in TX. [if they attempt to break into your business, home, boat or vehicle]

What about breaking into your COUNTRY?
 
SlevinKelevra said:
it's our country, not your country (or mine).
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I'm completely cognizant of that but, I was speaking in generalities. [any country]

Now how about answering my question on them starting their own businesses?
 
Excon said:
Like making illegal entry punishable by death.
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Would be a legal and financial nightmare since even illegal immigrants are protected under the fourteenth amendment.

Oh ****, it's people like you who are going to raise everyone's taxes by a ****load for no reason :doh

You clearly didn't think things through huh :doh

:doh

:doh

10+ million people flooding US courts in all areas, and ALL have the right to a trial and to appeals and all this other ****. We'd be screwed.

:doh
 
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SlevinKelevra said:
yes, no, maybe

Make it a capital crime to employ undocumented workers/ immigrants.

:shock:
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The answer is no, because the effort would not pass Constitutional challenge. The only way to really solve the immigration issue is the concert of immigration reform and economics.
 
OrphanSlug said:
The answer is no, because the effort would not pass Constitutional challenge. The only way to really solve the immigration issue is the concert of immigration reform and economics.
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As I said above, ignore that the constitution would prohibit it.

I'm asking ---- IN THEORY.

would being possibly held to death penalty deter the practice of employing them.
 
SlevinKelevra said:
yes, no, maybe


Make it a capital crime to employ undocumented workers/ immigrants.

:shock:
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no.....not a capital crime

but a crime with teeth...YES

first offence.......15% of prior years revenue as a fine

second offence........40% of prior years revenue, and every employee is checked to make sure they are currently legal

third offence....business is forfeited, sold, and creditors paid.....anything left goes to border patrol for budget

using % of revenue is fair.....that way it doesnt matter if a little mom & pop, or a corporate behemoth like Hormel meats

and every officer in the company is tagged as being part of a company that used illegals

if found at a second business, where same thing occurs...then jail time for that officer along with rest of fines
 
Much like eating children solved the Irish potato famine, yes.
 
SlevinKelevra said:
As I said above, ignore that the constitution would prohibit it.

I'm asking ---- IN THEORY.

would being possibly held to death penalty deter the practice of employing them.
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Perhaps, but it would not be conclusive. No real reason it would, we have no singular business model. Who is the one that ultimately ends up facing a capital punishment charge? Company management, company owner, stock holder? How many are you planning to charge here?
 
SlevinKelevra said:
such as
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Better border controls. Prompt removal of illegal immigrants to their home countries. Very stiff penalties for people engaged in human traficking. Serious fines for those who exploit illegal labour.
 
OrphanSlug said:
Perhaps, but it would not be conclusive. No real reason it would, we have no singular business model. Who is the one that ultimately ends up facing a capital punishment charge? Company management, company owner, stock holder? How many are you planning to charge here?
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anyone who owns the business.
 
Cephus said:
Mindless compassion is for fools. The fact is that any penalty that is not carried out in short order loses any ability to dissuade people from committing the same crime. It doesn't matter what the penalty is, none of them work if they are not quickly applied. How many people do you think would be afraid to rob a bank if they knew that they'd only be put in prison after they turned 75?
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No - you are saying that you would agree with the death penalty for illegals, only if the punishment could be swift. That is pretty heartless.
 
Superfly said:
No - you are saying that you would agree with the death penalty for illegals, only if the punishment could be swift. That is pretty heartless.
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The death penalty should always be swift regardless.
 
Superfly said:
The 18 people on death row who were exonerated after DNA testing would disagree with you.
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Let them come here and speak their mind for themselves, then. You're no one's spokesman.
 
Superfly said:
The 18 people on death row who were exonerated after DNA testing would disagree with you.
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old cases, new science

and a few errors when you have a human factor is normal

the system will NEVER be perfect.....

it just has to be close enough
 
pbrauer said:
That would be cruel and unusual punishment so it would be unconstitutional.
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Cruel? Hogwash. Unusal? That would change.
 
Superfly said:
No - you are saying that you would agree with the death penalty for illegals, only if the punishment could be swift. That is pretty heartless.
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Apparently you can't read, which isn't a surprise. The question was about people who HIRE illegals, not illegals themselves. Secondly, I said that it would be useless because it takes so long to get anyone executed, it wouldn't dissuade anyone from committing the crime. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of your emotional whining.
 
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