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Rand Paul as President in 2016

Should be Rand Paul the candidate for the Republicans in 2016

  • I'm a right leaning American, yes

    Votes: 12 25.5%
  • I'm a left leaning American, yes

    Votes: 8 17.0%
  • I'm a right leaning American, no

    Votes: 12 25.5%
  • I'm a left leaning American, no

    Votes: 15 31.9%

  • Total voters
    47
The sad reality is 1/2 the people in this country don't vote. I have talked to a lot of them and the consensuses is both parties are corrupt and they have better things to do than waste their time choosing between the lesser of 2 evils. I have spent a lot of time over the years trying to get them to vote with no success.
 
:shock: ..... :lamo

He's done everything the Status Quo loves. He's kept up the wars and expanded them, he's grown government, he's been more intrusive against the rights and liberties of the People. He's protected the rich and the corporate elite. This is Republocrat love right here, as controllable as Bush ended up being. Peas in a pod.
 
He's done everything the Status Quo loves. He's kept up the wars and expanded them, he's grown government, he's been more intrusive against the rights and liberties of the People. He's protected the rich and the corporate elite. This is Republocrat love right here, as controllable as Bush ended up being. Peas in a pod.

Real Repubs aren't about growing government. You mean he has protected the lefts, Rich and Elite. Bout it.
 
I think he is a really good alternative to Jeb Bush who is not a really good Republican. Should Rand Paul be the candidate for the Republicans in 2016?

I started out this election season with Ted Cruz as my favorite and I have not seen nor heard anything which has caused me to question that choice,

He is the smartest man in any room.

He is bold and courageous and does not back down from his conservative principled stands.

He is one hell of a debater, (you'll notice I did NOT call him a master debater).

He is very accomplished.

He has a terrific personal & family narrative as a Latino American.

He, almost single handedly brought to America's attention the evil behind ACA and withstood the slings and arrows from both sides of the political divide to do what was right for America to stop Obamacare from being rammed down our throats without our knowing what bile it contained. And as time goes on the evils he warned us about will start becoming increasing easy for US to see...but he saw it years before we could and he warned us as best as he could, even being blamed for the govt. shutdown which Thomas Sowell categorically denies was the fault of Cruz's opposition to it with his now famous and much mocked filibuster.

He not only says he stands with Israel he PROVES it.

He is a leader.

And he is Conservative to his core.

The most highly respected former Fortune 500 CEO in America, Jack Walsh is a huge Ted Cruz fan. And even the ultra liberal Alan Derhsowitz called Cruz the smartest of all his past law school students.

He is very well liked by those who know him and those who have gone against him have mostly regretted the encounter as he left their arguments in tatters or hurt their feelings after he roundly defeated them but always in a gentlemanly way.

I think less of Rand Paul.

His filibuster to stop the renewal of the Patriot Act was seen as political grandstanding. And I wonder how, when there are absolutely two valid sides to that issue, privacy vs security, he could jump onto the privacy side with both feet without seeming to give the very valid security considerations much of a nod?

Cruz's answer to this was the crafting and co-sponsoring of the USA Security Act which is the best possible compromise and which passed in the Senate by an overwhelming margin which showed that he could work well with members on both sides of the aisle to get things done when he is in the Oval office.
And in a tight race the difference between candidates can sometimes boil down to very small indicators.

And I saw something in a Fox News interview with Megyn Kelly and Ted Cruz where they showed some stock footage of Rand Paul as the two were discussing the 2016 race and when I saw Rand Paul quickly turn his wife around as she came to embrace him after a warm introductiomn at some event or venue as if to say, stop being human and showing me your genuine love in this exciting moment, your job is to help me win this race. Now turn around and let the photographers ghet some b=nice shots of us in the obligatory candidate and wife model.

Hmph.

Not great to see.
 
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I think Rand Paul has a great image by left leanings here.
 
I started out this election season with Ted Cruz as my favorite and I have not seen nor heard anything which has caused me to question that choice,

He is the smartest man in any room.


yes, indubitably.....
This is an administration that seems bound and determine to violate every single one of our bill of rights. I don’t know that they have yet violated the Third Amendment, but I expect them to start quartering soldiers in peoples’ homes soon.
 
I think he is a really good alternative to Jeb Bush who is not a really good Republican. Should Rand Paul be the candidate for the Republicans in 2016?

Paul is good on taxes, poor on national defense. He's not the ideal candidate but better than the commie and dufus on the democrat side.
 
I think he is a really good alternative to Jeb Bush who is not a really good Republican. Should Rand Paul be the candidate for the Republicans in 2016?

No. I'm a Republican and if he is the nominee I will strongly consider voting for Hillary Clinton. My ideal candidates at present are Jeb Bush, George Pataki, and perhaps Marco Rubio.
 
No. I'm a Republican and if he is the nominee I will strongly consider voting for Hillary Clinton. My ideal candidates at present are Jeb Bush, George Pataki, and perhaps Marco Rubio.

Mornin Sherman. :2wave: This election is to important to give to the Demos. This will lead to the nominating of 3 SCOTUS Justices.

The left gaining this.....cannot be allowed, nor accepted.
 
Mornin Sherman. :2wave: This election is to important to give to the Demos. This will lead to the nominating of 3 SCOTUS Justices.

The left gaining this.....cannot be allowed, nor accepted.

I would prefer the exact judicial status quo as it exists right now. I think it is healthiest for the country. Unfortunately I'm not sure how best to ensure that happens.
 
I would prefer the exact judicial status quo as it exists right now. I think it is healthiest for the country. Unfortunately I'm not sure how best to ensure that happens.

Problem is Ginsburg and Kennedy will be heading for pasture. So to Scalia.

So we need to make sure the Demos don't gain control.

Although.....I am for removing lifetime terms with these Justices and Any other Judges. As well as having them psychologically evaluated every 3 years for those over 65.
 
Problem is Ginsburg and Kennedy will be heading for pasture. So to Scalia.

So we need to make sure the Demos don't gain control.

Although.....I am for removing lifetime terms with these Justices and Any other Judges. As well as having them psychologically evaluated every 3 years for those over 65.

I strongly support lifetime appointments. I really wish we could maintain the moderate center-right lean of the court. I would like to see Kennedy replaced with another Kennedy, Ginsburg with another Ginsburg, and Scalia with another Scalia (perhaps slightly toned down).
 
I strongly support lifetime appointments. I really wish we could maintain the moderate center-right lean of the court. I would like to see Kennedy replaced with another Kennedy, Ginsburg with another Ginsburg, and Scalia with another Scalia (perhaps slightly toned down).

I am strongly against lifetime public appointments. No one should be guaranteed such.

I would like to see it stay center Right to.....so bringing in 3 who will do so. Will be enough to counter Roberts, Sotomayor and Kagan.
 
I am strongly against lifetime public appointments. No one should be guaranteed such.

I would like to see it stay center Right to.....so bringing in 3 who will do so. Will be enough to counter Roberts, Sotomayor and Kagan.

Lifetime appointments ensure the insulation of the Court, the guardians of the Constitution, from the vagaries of public opinion and the political machinations of the legislature. The Founders were wise to endow them with a lifetime appointment. The fact that so many have railed against the life term of the Justices after the Bush v. Gore, SSM, and Healthcare decisions just reinforces to me the necessity of maintaining that insulation.

As for the composition of the court Chief Justice Roberts is clearly on the center right.
 
Exactly. I have to grit my teeth when I hear people say that if so-and-so is not the candidate or if so-and-so is the candidate I won't vote or I'll vote Democrat or whatever. At some point Americans have to put the country ahead of ideology, and need to stop putting their sacred cows ahead of the greater good. It is important to elect the person most closely aligned with the right values, the strength of his or her convictions, and a willingness to accomplish the greater good. And for those of us who think less government and more liberty will always accomplish the greater good, that means no Democrat currently in the running should be elected since all see more government and more federal spending as the solution to everything.


Absolutely, but there's another ingredient: Ability. And in that I include the ability to overcome petty partisanship, and move the country in the right direction. Love him or hate him, and I hated him then, Reagan got a lot done by compromise and persuasion, where anymore congress is more likely deadlocked along partisan lines.

A president has to rise above that, and bring harmony...you may not like everything that results, but you will have results instead of this can kicking
 
Lifetime appointments ensure the insulation of the Court, the guardians of the Constitution, from the vagaries of public opinion and the political machinations of the legislature. The Founders were wise to endow them with a lifetime appointment. The fact that so many have railed against the life term of the Justices after the Bush v. Gore, SSM, and Healthcare decisions just reinforces to me the necessity of maintaining that insulation.

As for the composition of the court Chief Justice Roberts is clearly on the center right.


Insulation of the court can take place without Lifetime appointments.

Oh, I am sure Roberts leans Right on a couple of issues, anything else. He will have to prove that to be true. Until then.....he isn't viewed this way anymore.
 
Insulation of the court can take place without Lifetime appointments.

Oh, I am sure Roberts leans Right on a couple of issues, anything else. He will have to prove that to be true. Until then.....he isn't viewed this way anymore.

I think there is virtual unanimity on the fact that Chief Justice Roberts is, at minimum, a center right figure on the court. Regardless of what the peanut gallery thinks.
 
I think there is virtual unanimity on the fact that Chief Justice Roberts is, at minimum, a center right figure on the court. Regardless of what the peanut gallery thinks.


Depends on if you were talking Beer Nuts or Macadamias.



Wash. Post's Thiessen: Roberts Is Not The "Rock-Ribbed Conservative" We Thought He Was. In a July 2 Washington Post column, former George W. Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen wrote:

With George W. Bush's appointments of Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Roberts, conservatives thought finally they had broken the mold and put two rock-ribbed conservatives on the bench -- until last week, that is, when Roberts broke with the conservatives and cast the deciding vote to uphold the largest expansion of federal power in decades. [The Washington Post, 7/2/12]


Wash. Post's Gerson: Like Souter, Roberts "Unexpectedly Joins The List" Of Justices Who Have Frustrated Presidents Who Appointed Them. Fellow Bush speechwriter and Washington Post columnist Michael Gerson wrote in a column the same day:

Other presidents must also have been frustrated by their selections on the far side of life tenure -- Ronald Reagan's appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor or George H.W. Bush's elevation of David Souter come to mind. Now Chief Justice John Roberts unexpectedly joins the list. [The Washington Post, 7/2/12]....snip~
 
More from the Pecans and Walnuts.


Northwestern Professor Presser: "I Wish I Could Say That I Believe Roberts" Shares Ideology of Other Conservative Justices. Northwestern University law professor Stephen B. Presser, an opponent of the health care law, compared Roberts unfavorably to the right-wing bloc on the Supreme Court in a June 28 CNN op-ed:

Fox's Cavuto: "Justice Roberts, We Thought We Were Getting One Justice, We Got Another," As With Souter. Fox News host Neil Cavuto similarly voiced his frustration with Roberts on his July 2 show:

Cato's Bandow: "Roberts Has Become The Manchurian Jurist." Cato Institute senior fellow Doug Bandow accused Roberts of being "worse" than his liberal colleagues in a July 1 post on The American Spectator:

MRC's Bozell: Roberts "Will Be Seen As A Traitor To His Philosophy." On June 28, The Daily Caller reported that Brent Bozell, founder and president of the Media Research Center, considered Roberts' reputation "forever stained":.....snip~
 
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