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Is Ronald Reagan the best President all time?

Was Ronald Reagan the best President of the all times?

  • I'm a right leaning American, yes

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • I'm a right leaning American, yes and the United Statss needs a President like him now

    Votes: 9 9.9%

  • I'm a left leaning American, yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I'm a left leaning American, yes and the United States needs a President like him now

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • I'm a right leaning American, no

    Votes: 23 25.3%

  • I'm a left leaning American, no

    Votes: 41 45.1%

  • I'm not from America, yes

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • I'm not from America, no

    Votes: 14 15.4%
  • Total voters
    91
Andalublue said:
Well, it would be quite difficult to express a first-hand opinion on all of the previous presidents, wouldn't it?
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But if you say "all time" the most mean "the last 50-60 years".
 
ConsvLiberal said:
In 1984 Ronald Reagan got the best result in history of the United Staates Of America.
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Well, Lyndon Johnson won the greatest percentage of the popular vote, Barack Obama won the greatest number of votes, and Warren Harding had the greatest percentage margin of victory, so in what terms was Reagan's 1984 result the best in US history?
 
Andalublue said:
Well, Lyndon Johnson won the greatest percentage of the popular vote, Barack Obama won the greatest number of votes, and Warren Harding had the greatest percentage margin of victory, so in what terms was Reagan's 1984 result the best in US history?
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Ronald Reagan won the most states.
 
ConsvLiberal said:
Ronald Reagan won the most states.
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Well, that one metric, I'll concede. I think I'll go with Obama's victory as the greatest, since there are numerous ways of defining the 'greatest' victory. You pays your money, you makes your choice.
 
Public opinion polls mean very little, especially when it comes to history. I would say that Reagan was the best president in my lifetime. I remember how miserable the Carter days were. Reagan inherited a mess. He had the ability though to talk to the American people and inspire them, both with confidence, humor and policy. His administration turned the economy around, even though congress fought him. He led the country through economic good times and peace. Clinton did much the same and in hindsight, compared to what followed him, my view has changed about his presidency. Clinton's economy was pushed by the internet and computer revolution, even though the bubble burst late in his presidency. He balanced the budget grudgingly at the insistence of Kasich and Gingrich.

Greatest president of all time? Probably not the greatest. Lincoln comes to mind, Washington didn't suck. I don't know much about our first president John Hanson.
 
SlevinKelevra said:
uhhhh............. this is some amazingly whooshy conflation of positions, but even if one were to accept it, he wouldn't be the first by that metric.
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Bet you had to use your google mastery to look him up.
 
LeoVlaming said:
This may come as a surprise to you but the rich (and talented) have the habit of making themselves richer. They don't need a President or a government for that.
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Being rich often has little to do with being talented. While being exceptional can make a person rich, the usual method is to be born rich and simply be average, and then stay rich.

joG said:
Just because he fundamentally strengthened the economy, won the Cold War and had a wonderful voice?
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Neither he nor his policies did either of those things. Our economy is far far weaker for enacting supply side economics, and no one "won" the Cold War. We are still suffering for having fought it in the first place.
 
Paschendale said:
Being rich often has little to do with being talented. While being exceptional can make a person rich, the usual method is to be born rich and simply be average, and then stay rich.



Neither he nor his policies did either of those things. Our economy is far far weaker for enacting supply side economics, and no one "won" the Cold War. We are still suffering for having fought it in the first place.
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In capitalism supply side is the only side. The cold war was over until a very weak administration allowed lesser powers to restart it. Smart foreign policy understands the proper use of power, both politically and economically. The last seven years have been a text book lesson in what not to do with power.
 
Middleground said:
I will add that his leadership skills were greatly emphasized by his natural charisma.
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Absolutely. The guy had a way with people. He had humor and was inspirational when he spoke. So was FDR.

That's important with a leader. Both were very good leaders. When in public both knew how to turn on the charm.
 
sawdust said:
In capitalism supply side is the only side. The cold war was over until a very weak administration allowed lesser powers to restart it. Smart foreign policy understands the proper use of power, both politically and economically. The last seven years have been a text book lesson in what not to do with power.
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Obama has not been president for 7 years.
So, what specifically did bush do in his last year that offended you, but didn't offend you in his first 7?
 
ConsvLiberal said:
In 1984 Ronald Reagan got the best result in history of the United Staates Of America. The Reaganomics were popular all around the world. Do you think that he was the greatest President of the United States?
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I'm Canadian, so my view is discounted, but for me Reagan was a great President because he was exactly what America needed at the time. If you'll recall, Reagan came along following the resignation in disgrace of Nixon, the pardon and mediocrity of Ford, and the difficult economic and foreign relations times of Carter, topped off with oil shortages and a failed rescue mission to free the American hostages in Iran. America was collectively depressed and in the dumps and Reagan took America by the scruff of the neck and lifted it up, demanding that Americans have pride in their country and believe that better times were just ahead. There is an incredible and special value to a man who can kick an entire nation in the ass and wake it up from the doldrums.

But was he the best President ever - I doubt that - but he was damn good and a blessing to America at the time.
 
Paschendale said:
Being rich often has little to do with being talented. While being exceptional can make a person rich, the usual method is to be born rich and simply be average, and then stay rich.
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Actually only a minority of the really very rich people inherited their wealth. That being said, unlike you I don't feel that being rich is in and of itself a sin.
 
SlevinKelevra said:
Obama has not been president for 7 years.
So, what specifically did bush do in his last year that offended you, but didn't offend you in his first 7?
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Rounding error.
 
sawdust said:
In capitalism supply side is the only side. The cold war was over until a very weak administration allowed lesser powers to restart it. Smart foreign policy understands the proper use of power, both politically and economically. The last seven years have been a text book lesson in what not to do with power.
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Not everything Reagan did in his foreign policy was a success.. Lebanon. Iran Contra. He ended up arming many we are fighting today.

But IMO his negotiations with the USSR were very good, I give him a lot of credit that. Funny thing about that though was many conservatives and Republicans sharply criticized Reagan back then for talking to and negotiating with the USSR. Some accused him of appeasement. Does that sound familiar?
 
SlevinKelevra said:
so does the record that sells the most records win the title of "best music"
?
the movie that sells the most tickets?
etc?
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That's a pretty arrogant and elitist comment. You'd place your views of what's best based on your tastes above the tastes of the public at large.

Not surprising.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Not everything Reagan did in his foreign policy was a success.. Lebanon. Iran Contra. He ended up arming many we are fighting today.

But IMO his negotiations with the USSR were very good, I give him a lot of credit that. Funny thing about that though was many conservatives and Republicans sharply criticized Reagan back then for talking to and negotiating with the USSR. Some accused him of appeasement. Does that sound familiar?
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Nothing is perfect where people are involved. I don't know how Lebanon can be considered a failure, other than being susceptible to bombing. I view Iran Contra as Reagans red badge of courage. An anti communist special op that got busted and publicized for partisanship. I remember Ollie North's testimony before congress and how he made Dems look silly and got the American people behind him.
 
CanadaJohn said:
That's a pretty arrogant and elitist comment. You'd place your views of what's best based on your tastes above the tastes of the public at large.

Not surprising.
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McDonalds has sold the most hamburgers.


Sometimes sales has to do with price, access, etc.


Sometimes lowest common denominator moves sales; it certainly doesn't guarantee quality.
 
sawdust said:
Nothing is perfect where people are involved. I don't know how Lebanon can be considered a failure, other than being susceptible to bombing. I view Iran Contra as Reagans red badge of courage. An anti communist special op that got busted and publicized for partisanship.
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4 people were killed in Benghazi. We've had Congressional hearing after hearing for no other reason then partisanship. 241 Marines were killed in Lebanon, all Reagan did was cut and run. So please don't point fingers about partisanship, both sides do it. And it's hit record levels the past 6 years.

I remember Ollie North's testimony before congress and how he made Dems look silly and got the American people behind him.
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The American people were lied to. We're a gullible bunch. Most were behind Bush in 2003 too, but that's changed now that we know the truth.
 
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