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2016: Bush vs Clinton

Who is your favorite?

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 22 62.9%

  • Jeb Bush

    Votes: 13 37.1%
  • Total voters
    35
I'm staying home. I've already cast that vote.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Why are you talking about the Kennedy family in a thread about the Bush/Clinton matchup in 2016?
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Nobody seems to have a problem with that particular dynasty. There's definitely a lot of picking and choosing.
 
ConsvLiberal said:
It will be a competition between two dynasties in the United States. It will be very interesting, so, which one is your favorite?
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Neither. Why would either be anybody's favorite. Are we just going to be that accepting of a dynastic America now.
 
Glen Contrarian said:
Personally I'd pick Warren over Hillary, but Hillary's the one who would win the election...and I've got two "Hillary" signs in my basement waiting for me to bring them out....
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Don't do it!
 
ConsvLiberal said:
We can be sure that will be the duel 2016.
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i'm not ready to call the race when one of them hasn't even officially declared his candidacy and no one has voted. a lot can happen between now and the primaries.
 
ConsvLiberal said:
We can be sure that will be the duel 2016.
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i'm not ready to call the race when one of them hasn't even officially declared his candidacy and no one has voted. a lot can happen between now and the primaries.
 
Fiddytree said:
Bush, easily.
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I hate to say it, but I agree with this. Since I was born the people have consistently voted for the more personable and affable candidate that conveyed a positive message, and I can't think of a single exception. Clinton, quite frankly, has the affability of an ant. She fails the "I'd have a beer with her" test in about sixty-seven different ways.

Edit: anonymous polls are stupid.
 
If it ends up Hillary v. Jeb, I'll vote third party again.
 
tres borrachos said:
Dynasties are rulers from the same family. It is NOT limited to passing rule down through generations.
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Exactly, and of course admittedly, we're using the term loosely, but it does seem apropos.
 
AlbqOwl said:
LOL. I hear that. I went with Bush too, not because he is my preference for the GOP nominee by a long stretch, but I still have to believe he would do less damage to the country than Hillary will do. And IMO Hillary would have done less damage than Obama has done. (Even though she wouldn't remember half of it and wouldn't have a clue how the other half happened other than she would be sure it wasn't her fault.)

What I can say for Jeb Bush is that I would have to hold my nose to vote for him, but not as tightly as I had to do to vote for McCain.
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Exactly, aren't we sick of holding our noses and voting??
 
Cardinal said:
I hate to say it, but I agree with this. Since I was born the people have consistently voted for the more personable and affable candidate that conveyed a positive message, and I can't think of a single exception. Clinton, quite frankly, has the affability of an ant. She fails the "I'd have a beer with her" test in about sixty-seven different ways.

Edit: anonymous polls are stupid.
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Agreed, but I think it is 68.
 
Montecresto said:
Exactly, aren't we sick of holding our noses and voting??
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Well it doesn't seem to happen to the Democrats as they don't seem to expect anything of their candidates other than they are reasonable leftwing and have a D after their name. Character, track record, accomplishments, demonstrated ability to get things done etc. don't seem to matter much.

But until the people who vote GOP, regardless of how they self-identify, develop a backbone and are willing to demonstrate strength of character and conviction by standing up and speaking out for what they want and expect from those we entrust with leadership, I fear we will continue to 'settle' for a vanilla flavor that gives everybody just a little of what they say they want but can't or won't deliver on the campaign rhetoric. And that means holding our noses when we vote.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well it doesn't seem to happen to the Democrats as they don't seem to expect anything of their candidates other than they are reasonable leftwing and have a D after their name. Character, track record, accomplishments, demonstrated ability to get things done etc. don't seem to matter much.

But until the people who vote GOP, regardless of how they self-identify, develop a backbone and are willing to demonstrate strength of character and conviction by standing up and speaking out for what they want and expect from those we entrust with leadership, I fear we will continue to 'settle' for a vanilla flavor that gives everybody just a little of what they say they want but can't or won't deliver on the campaign rhetoric. And that means holding our noses when we vote.
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Oh, for crying out loud.
 
The lesser of the two evils .. obvious answer .. but for POTUS, Sanders or Warren .. much better ..IMO.
Either of the two "evils" would be more of the same .. the reason why its obvious.
 
Kobie said:
Oh, for crying out loud.
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And considering that Obama had no success of ANY kind in any position he has ever held to hold up as a significant accomplishment, has demonstrated little strength of character when he sells himself preaching one doctrine, and then ignores or dismisses that when he has the power to do the opposite, and has not one single significant accomplishment to show for six plus years in office except for a mostly unpopular government overtake of the healthcare system, how is what I said in any way incorrect?

Considering that Hillary Clinton is the presumed Democratic nominee by a party who expects her election to be a simple coronation, but she also cannot point to a single significant accomplishment in her entire history as lawyer, first lady of Arkansas and the USA, senator, or Secretary of State, and also has demonstrated questionable character, how is what I said in any way incorrect?

Sadly, both parties seem to look for a candidate with the right letter after their name who can win instead of a candidate they can sell on that candidate's integrity, character, ability, accomplishments, and vision.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Sadly, both parties seem to look for a candidate with the right letter after their name who can win instead of a candidate they can sell on that candidate's integrity, character, ability, accomplishments, and vision.
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That may be true; however, that's not what you said in the previous post.
 
Montecresto said:
Don't do it!
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I'll do it! Nobody move or I'm gonna do it!

Hey - you - over there - yeah you, the guy from Texas - I told you DON'T MOVE!!!! That does it!!!

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ConsvLiberal said:
It will be a competition between two dynasties in the United States. It will be very interesting, so, which one is your favorite?
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At the moment it's Jeb but if he hews too far to the right and Hillary cleaves back to the center after the primaries I suppose I could be convinced.
 
Sherman123 said:
At the moment it's Jeb but if he hews too far to the right and Hillary cleaves back to the center after the primaries I suppose I could be convinced.
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Convinced to support candidates that move around as necessary to get your vote? News is, Hillary's in the center. If anything she'll end up center right a smidgen.
 
I refuse to choose between the lesser of 2 evils. If it comes down to these 2 the guillotine is the right choice.
 
I'm in a strange place politically. I no longer vote for who I think is the best candidate but rather which political culture, starting with those at the grass roots, needs to be sent a message with my vote.
 
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