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Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon


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not sure how tearing apart the country poses no threat to the country
 
question..... what state do you come from?

tell me do not the people have the right to alter or abolish their government?

when you no longer get representation or your rights are taken away ya

but if you just don't like how elections and votes are going no

democracy cant work if the loosing side can opt out whenever they please
 
the people of a state leaving does not threaten the people of the union.

tell that to the people who want to be in the union inside the rebellious state or to the new sate when every time some one doesn't like the out come of a vote they re shatter the territory

letting that kind of thing slide would destroy the entire country
 
when you no longer get representation or your rights are taken away ya

but if you just don't like how elections and votes are going no

democracy cant work if the loosing side can opt out whenever they please

if a stated seceded it would be by the people of that state, by either state convention or referendum....the state government is not going to act on its own.


TEXAS CONSTITUTION:

Sec. 2. INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.
 
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If the citizens decide the State isn't working for them, then the State loses its legitimacy and it should be threatened.

how's that true when you have representation
 
how's that true when you have representation

So the citizens do not have the right to determine that the State they belong to doesn't work for them?
 
if a stated secede it would be by the people of that state, by either state convention or referendum....the state government is not going to act on its own.


TEXAS CONSTITUTION:

Sec. 2. INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.

ya like that would be unanimous

so what's to stop every one from seceding from the seceding state apparently as long as your not attacking some 1 that's ok now
 
ya like that would be unanimous

so what's to stop every one from seceding from the seceding state apparently as long as your not attacking some 1 that's ok now

not sure what you mean by the last line, ..can you reframe it?

it does not have to be unanimous.

the federal government is granted the power to stop insurrections in states, ..like a group pf people taking over the government.

but the founders at the constitutional convention denied the federal government the power to preserve the harmony of the union - may 31st 1787
 
So the citizens do not have the right to determine that the State they belong to doesn't work for them?

if they want to pass new laws fine so long as their constitutional

swapping leaders is ok to

cutting up the state into smaller states under the united states constitution ok

but no you don't get to decide the law doesn't apply to you just because you feel like it

I would not have supported the confederacy I don't support this
 
not sure what you mean by the last line, ..can you reframe it?

it does not have to be unanimous.

the federal government is granted the power to stop insurrections in states, ..like a group pf people taking over the government.

but the founders at the constitutional convention denied the federal government the power to preserve the harmony of the union - may 31st 1787

well if 1 part of the country can decide to leave at will then what's to stop smaller and smaller section doing the same thing in the territory that left
 
if they want to pass new laws fine so long as their constitutional

swapping leaders is ok to

cutting up the state into smaller states under the united states constitution ok

but no you don't get to decide the law doesn't apply to you just because you feel like it

I would not have supported the confederacy I don't support this

I know what the Constitution is. And I know the current US framework denies the right to self-determination of its citizens. You are entitled to like this. I am entitled to dislike it on principle.
 
I would not have supported the confederacy I don't support this

the Southern states did what founders did.

the made declarations of separation from the union, listings grievances against the northern states and the federal government, over them violating federal and constitutional law, and violating rights of southern Citizens
 
well if 1 part of the country can decide to leave at will then what's to stop smaller and smaller section doing the same thing in the territory that left

Yes, self-determination is something you abhor. That is clear and you are entitled to that view.
 
I know what the Constitution is. And I know the current US framework denies the right to self-determination of its citizens. You are entitled to like this. I am entitled to dislike it on principle.

ok but if you act on it war will be the result
 
well if 1 part of the country can decide to leave at will then what's to stop smaller and smaller section doing the same thing in the territory that left

the only way a state were to leave the union, would be when their state powers are being violated or its Citizens are having their rights infringed upon...

no state is JUST going to leave, because that would be crazy.
 
the Southern states did what founders did.

the made declarations of separation from the union, listings grievances against the northern states and the federal government, over them violating federal and constitutional law, and violating rights of southern Citizens

no taxation wihtout representation

is not the same as

were leaving because the votes are not going are way

slavery being the subject of some of those votes to boot
 
Yes, self-determination is something you abhor. That is clear and you are entitled to that view.

yes I don care for anarchy it endangers peoples security and rights
 
the only way a state were to leave the union, would be when their state powers are being violated or its Citizens are having their rights infringed upon...

no state is JUST going to leave, because that would be crazy.

and that's why Texas is not acutely succeeding
 
no taxation wihtout representation

is not the same as

were leaving because the votes are not going are way

slavery being the subject of some of those votes to boot

the state of Texas left because the northern states were violating federal law /threatening southern citizens/taking southern property, while the federal government did nothing to stop it, and was violating constitutional law.
 
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