not sure how tearing apart the country poses no threat to the country
not sure how tearing apart the country poses no threat to the country
question..... what state do you come from?
tell me do not the people have the right to alter or abolish their government?
the people of a state leaving does not threaten the people of the union.
A State isn't (or shouldn't be) an end in and of itself.
ok so what?
when you no longer get representation or your rights are taken away ya
but if you just don't like how elections and votes are going no
democracy cant work if the loosing side can opt out whenever they please
If the citizens decide the State isn't working for them, then the State loses its legitimacy and it should be threatened.
how's that true when you have representation
if a stated secede it would be by the people of that state, by either state convention or referendum....the state government is not going to act on its own.
TEXAS CONSTITUTION:
Sec. 2. INHERENT POLITICAL POWER; REPUBLICAN FORM OF GOVERNMENT. All political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit. The faith of the people of Texas stands pledged to the preservation of a republican form of government, and, subject to this limitation only, they have at all times the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their government in such manner as they may think expedient.
ya like that would be unanimous
so what's to stop every one from seceding from the seceding state apparently as long as your not attacking some 1 that's ok now
So the citizens do not have the right to determine that the State they belong to doesn't work for them?
not sure what you mean by the last line, ..can you reframe it?
it does not have to be unanimous.
the federal government is granted the power to stop insurrections in states, ..like a group pf people taking over the government.
but the founders at the constitutional convention denied the federal government the power to preserve the harmony of the union - may 31st 1787
if they want to pass new laws fine so long as their constitutional
swapping leaders is ok to
cutting up the state into smaller states under the united states constitution ok
but no you don't get to decide the law doesn't apply to you just because you feel like it
I would not have supported the confederacy I don't support this
I would not have supported the confederacy I don't support this
well if 1 part of the country can decide to leave at will then what's to stop smaller and smaller section doing the same thing in the territory that left
I know what the Constitution is. And I know the current US framework denies the right to self-determination of its citizens. You are entitled to like this. I am entitled to dislike it on principle.
ok but if you act on it war will be the result
well if 1 part of the country can decide to leave at will then what's to stop smaller and smaller section doing the same thing in the territory that left
the Southern states did what founders did.
the made declarations of separation from the union, listings grievances against the northern states and the federal government, over them violating federal and constitutional law, and violating rights of southern Citizens
Yes, self-determination is something you abhor. That is clear and you are entitled to that view.
It often is. How do you think the US came into existence?
the only way a state were to leave the union, would be when their state powers are being violated or its Citizens are having their rights infringed upon...
no state is JUST going to leave, because that would be crazy.
no taxation wihtout representation
is not the same as
were leaving because the votes are not going are way
slavery being the subject of some of those votes to boot