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Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon

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jonny5 said:
Hypotheticals are by definition void of all reality.
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As soon as a State secedes it would become a Federal Government of its own. That is reality.

ANd when the South tried to secede the first thing that they did is a create a Federal Government.

The point of neo-secessionists is to circumnavigate the people to impose a new government that meets the needs of a small minority.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
As soon as a State secedes it would become a Federal Government of its own. That is reality.

ANd when the South tried to secede the first thing that they did is a create a Federal Government.

The point of neo-secessionists is to circumnavigate the people to impose a new government that meets the needs of a small minority.
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The people are the ones seceeding. How are they being circumvented?
 
jonny5 said:
The people are the ones seceeding. How are they being circumvented?
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That is double talk the Southern States seceded not the people separately from the State. The talk about Texas seceding is about the State seceding no one every says that it the people of Texas that want to secede that is because the secessionists are a extreme minority just as they were a minority in control in the Southern States that tried to secede and failed.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
That is double talk the Southern States seceded not the people separately from the State. The talk about Texas seceding is about the State seceding no one every says that it the people of Texas that want to secede that is because the secessionists are a extreme minority just as they were a minority in control in the Southern States that tried to secede and failed.
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I'm a native Texan. Everybody in their right mind in Texas knows that if Texas seceded that in a matter of a few short years the state would be in a world of ****.
 
Removable Mind said:
I'm a native Texan. Everybody in their right mind in Texas knows that if Texas seceded that in a matter of a few short years the state would be in a world of ****.
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Lol Im in New Mexico I dont think that it would take years for Texas to go to ****. But that might be my bias speaking :p
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Lol Im in New Mexico I dont think that it would take years for Texas to go to ****. But that might be my bias speaking :p
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No, no...it's not, your pretty much right on.

It wouldn't take long to realize that Texans can't tote the note for education, highways, military, medicare, medicaid, Border patrol, water management, yadda, yadda, yadda...

The people in Texas who support secession are morons...in my opinion.
 
Removable Mind said:
No, no...it's not, your pretty much right on.

It wouldn't take long to realize that Texans can't tote the note for education, highways, military, medicare, medicaid, Border patrol, water management, yadda, yadda, yadda...

The people in Texas who support secession are morons...in my opinion.
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I suspect that Mexican Cartels would take advantage of a border State that seceded. That is if we ignored the fact that no State can secede. But if one did somehow, it would lose overnight a huge military protection. It would take years to prepare for such a change to a States government to work. But without the US Constitution in play within its borders and the ideology of those supporting secession, I wouldnt be surprised to see lots of corruption. There would be a immediate need for monies to be generated.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I suspect that Mexican Cartels would take advantage of a border State that seceded. That is if we ignored the fact that no State can secede. But if one did somehow, it would lose overnight a huge military protection. It would take years to prepare for such a change to a States government to work. But without the US Constitution in play within its borders and the ideology of those supporting secession, I wouldnt be surprised to see lots of corruption. There would be a immediate need for monies to be generated.
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Well you know people think every Texas has an oil well in their backyard...that's suppose to pay for Texas' secession.
 
Peter Grimm said:
While unlikely anytime too soon, it's not unthinkable that one day, Texas might vote to secede from the United States and re-establish itself as an independent nation.

If done in a peaceful and democratic manner...that is, if the people of Texas overwhelmingly voted to withdraw from the U.S. In a referendum similar to the one recently held in Scotland, would you support the right of Texas to go her own way?
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I say let Texas secede and then we impose very heavy sanctions until they beg US to come back in.
 
Of course I would support that... every state should have that right, besides it is another country that I could add to my list:

USA
Canada
Mexico
Costa Rica
Australia
New Zealand
Hong Kong
Vietnam
China
Singapore
Italy
France
Monaco
England
Switzerland
East L.A.
AND:
Texas
 
FreedomFromAll said:
That is double talk the Southern States seceded not the people separately from the State. The talk about Texas seceding is about the State seceding no one every says that it the people of Texas that want to secede that is because the secessionists are a extreme minority just as they were a minority in control in the Southern States that tried to secede and failed.
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the people of the southern states chose to secede from the union, all states except tenn..by holding state conventions, while tenn. held a state referendum of the people.
 
Removable Mind said:
No, no...it's not, your pretty much right on.

It wouldn't take long to realize that Texans can't tote the note for education, highways, military, medicare, medicaid, Border patrol, water management, yadda, yadda, yadda...

The people in Texas who support secession are morons...in my opinion.
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if Texas left the union, the union would be in a bad way also.

because Texas holds oil reserves, Texas holds [1] power grid of the [3] which other states depend on......so it would not be good for both sides.
 
ernst barkmann said:
not likely to work since they could make deals with other nations, and they have access to the sea.
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Absolutely!

The loss of Texas would be well worth it in order to get rid of the Republican power base.
Getting rid of Texas would be as helpful for America as curing cancer (politically speaking).
Without Republicans, the amount of good we could do is endless.
 
Painter said:
Absolutely!

The loss of Texas would be well worth it in order to get rid of the Republican power base.
Getting rid of Texas would be as helpful for America as curing cancer (politically speaking).
Without Republicans, the amount of good we could do is endless.
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nope this is the same cancer
 
ernst barkmann said:
:2razz:

one reason you get smacked down so much is because you put no real thought in what you say.
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well u.s has an ok navy maybe sanctions would work
 
FreedomFromAll said:
That is double talk the Southern States seceded not the people separately from the State. The talk about Texas seceding is about the State seceding no one every says that it the people of Texas that want to secede that is because the secessionists are a extreme minority just as they were a minority in control in the Southern States that tried to secede and failed.
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In a republic, the state is the people, entrusted to represent their will. Furthermore, if you believe polls, that extreme minority is about 25% of the state. Thats about 6 million people, which is twice the population of all the original 13 colonies combined.
 
blarg said:
well u.s has an ok navy maybe sanctions would work
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think about this.

sanations are used by the U.N. on nations around the world who threathen the peace of the world using the cooperation of U.N. members

why would the U.N. apply sanctions to a state like Texas, which poses no threat and if the u.s. were to go it alone it would look like an act of war according to madison.

James Madison - Mr. MADISON, observed that the more he reflected on the use of force, the more he doubted the practicability, the justice and the efficacy of it when applied to people collectively and not individually. - A union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force agst. a State, would look more like a declaration of war, than an infliction of punishment, and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.
 
ernst barkmann said:
think about this.

sanations are used by the U.N. on nations around the world who threathen the peace of the world using the cooperation of U.N. members

why would the U.N. apply sanctions to a state like Texas, which poses no threat and if the u.s. were to go it alone it would look like an act of war according to madison.

James Madison - Mr. MADISON, observed that the more he reflected on the use of force, the more he doubted the practicability, the justice and the efficacy of it when applied to people collectively and not individually. - A union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force agst. a State, would look more like a declaration of war, than an infliction of punishment, and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.
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would you prefer the term blockade
 
blarg said:
would you prefer the term blockade
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so you want the u.s. to threaten a state which has left the union?

even though that state poses no threat to the u.s. or the rest of the world....boy...thats going to make the u.s. look in the right to the rest of the world.
 
ernst barkmann said:
so you want the u.s. to threaten a state which has left the union?

even though that state poses no threat to the u.s. or the rest of the world....boy...thats going to make the u.s. look in the right to the rest of the world.
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if they left just because they felt like it yes
 
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