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You willing to support a movement to secede?
no i not for secession, only the ability to do it if the people would desire such a thing.
You willing to support a movement to secede?
This was settled 150 years ago when the South lost the Civil War.
Any Texan who isn't happy in the USA can leave any time that they feel like it. The entrances to the exits are all wide open.
I believe every nation has the right to self-determination.
This was settled 150 years ago when the South lost the Civil War.
Any Texan who isn't happy in the USA can leave any time that they feel like it. The entrances to the exits are all wide open.
no i not for secession, only the ability to do it if the people would desire such a thing.
no i not for secession, only the ability to do it if the people would desire such a thing.
But if there is say...51% of the people who want to secede...you believe that would be in your best interests?
no!!!
texas might be crazy - but the kind of crazy that you're glad to have on your side if sh*t goes down
stay in the union my friends!
I fully support the right of Texas to secede as soon as possible. After all, most Texans (those outside Austin), don't want to be Americans.
Right, and the USA determined in a Civil War that ended with the South's resounding defeat that the USA would not be split up.
We settled this on the battlefields of that war.
this is not correct ...to leave the u.s. the government wants people to pay a tax now.
Thousands Renounce U.S. Citizenship Hitting New Record, Not Just Over*Taxes - Forbes
In an unfortunate record, more Americans gave up their U.S. citizenship in 2014 than ever before. The chart below shows a steep uptick, and although the numbers aren’t big in absolute terms, the trend is marked. The names of individuals who renounced their U.S. citizenship or terminated their long-term U.S. residency comes out quarterly. The published name and shame list is invariably incomplete.
Still, it makes 2014 the highest year ever, with 3,415 total. In 2013, there were 2,999 published expatriates. That was a 221% increase. In that context, a 14% increase may not sound like much, but given the demand, the U.S. State Department raised the fee for renunciation from $450 to $2,350. That is more than twenty times the average level in other high-income countries. The State Department says it had to raise the fee given all the extra work they have to process people who are on their way out.
Wrong. It's not a tax, it's a fee charged to cover the costs involved in the process. :roll:
I fully support the right of Texas to secede as soon as possible. After all, most Texans (those outside Austin), don't want to be Americans.
mute point....the point is the door is not just open to leave the government wants money...which is why i highlighted parts of your post.
Wrong. It's not a tax, it's a fee charged to cover the costs involved in the process. :roll:
BS, why should the US government pay the costs involved for those who want to leave the USA? There's no such thing as a free lunch.
BS, why should the US government pay the costs involved for those who want to leave the USA? There's no such thing as a free lunch.
thats not the point.....the point you made in your original statement was to the effect people could just exit an open door from the US,.and they cannot because they have to pay to exit
Not my problem and they'll get zero sympathy from me.
its not your problem, butits also not an open door to exit as you made it out to me...
The door is wide open but you have to pay before you pass through it.
Did anyone on this forum ever get a free passport?