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Do you believe....[W:123]

Do you believe that the school system is ran mostly by liberals?


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Yes I do, and it makes sense why. Education being one facet which tends to lean liberal, the profession itself (as in policy and process) being another, and perhaps lastly employment organization (unions.)
 
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Sorry I read the question as "Do you believe in a school system run by Liberals?"

I'd like to change my vote to YES and add that we are doing a disservice to our children and the country by allowing them to be brainwashed into the Leftist agenda.
 
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Sorry I read the question as "Do you believe in a school system run by Liberals?"

I'd like to change my vote to YES and add that we are doing a disservice to our children and the country by allowing them to be brainwashed into the Leftist agenda.

Oh, please do tell us exactly what the "leftist agenda" is.
 
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I suppose it depends where you are at and which state you live in. Personally where i'm from the schools are incredible washed and make no political point in order to avoid controversy practically at any cost ( that's personal and in no way to mean everywhere or elude to that)
 
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Oh, please do tell us exactly what the "leftist agenda" is.
This says it better than I...

Modern liberalism rejects, to one degree or another, the competence and sovereignty of the common man and subordinates him to the will of governments run by liberal elites. The western world's twentieth century capitulation to this philosophy is obvious--and the implications for liberty are ominous. But the history of the world also documents the heroic struggles of human beings to escape from tyrannies of all types, whether imposed by the brute force and declared entitlement of a dictator, or falsely justified by economic, religious or political sophistries. The science fiction of Marxian economic evolution, the grandiose fantasy of a New World Order, the utopian dreams of The Great Society, the myth of the divine emperor, have all had their turns on center stage in irrational man's attempts to legitimize government control and deny individual liberty.


The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, by Lyle Rossiter, Jr., MD
 
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This says it better than I...

Modern liberalism rejects, to one degree or another, the competence and sovereignty of the common man and subordinates him to the will of governments run by liberal elites. The western world's twentieth century capitulation to this philosophy is obvious--and the implications for liberty are ominous. But the history of the world also documents the heroic struggles of human beings to escape from tyrannies of all types, whether imposed by the brute force and declared entitlement of a dictator, or falsely justified by economic, religious or political sophistries. The science fiction of Marxian economic evolution, the grandiose fantasy of a New World Order, the utopian dreams of The Great Society, the myth of the divine emperor, have all had their turns on center stage in irrational man's attempts to legitimize government control and deny individual liberty.


The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, by Lyle Rossiter, Jr., MD

Ah yes, good old Dr. Rossiter, the living embofiment of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
 
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Ah yes, good old Dr. Rossiter, the living embofiment of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

I thought he summed it up nicely.

That 'effect' sounds an awful lot like Obama.
 
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I think it depends on where you are and what type of school. If you live in a rural part of a state that is predominantly conservative then probably not, but if you live in a larger city that is more diverse with its demographics then probably yes. If the school is private then probably no, but if the school is public then probably more yes, but again, that also most likely depends on the location in relation to the surrounding demographics. I think it's easy to generalize it but in reality is more complex than that I think.
 
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I think it depends on where you are and what type of school. If you live in a rural part of a state that is predominantly conservative then probably not, but if you live in a larger city that is more diverse with its demographics then probably yes. If the school is private then probably no, but if the school is public then probably more yes, but again, that also most likely depends on the location in relation to the surrounding demographics. I think it's easy to generalize it but in reality is more complex than that I think.

We thought by moving to suburbia, we could at least temporarily escape the bondage of Liberalism but, sadly, it caught up to us before our children graduated. Fortunately, as they grow into their 30s, the errors of their ways are being realized.
 
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We thought by moving to suburbia, we could at least temporarily escape the bondage of Liberalism but, sadly, it caught up to us before our children graduated. Fortunately, as they grow into their 30s, the errors of their ways are being realized.

Oh, for Pete's sake.
 
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Oh, for Pete's sake.

Yep because the ideology of those who control the major cities. some of the Leftist [due to economics] had to move to the outlying areas and infect the schools.
 
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We thought by moving to suburbia, we could at least temporarily escape the bondage of Liberalism but, sadly, it caught up to us before our children graduated. Fortunately, as they grow into their 30s, the errors of their ways are being realized.

Can you describe what it is that you would consider to be the "bondage of liberalism" in school, such as the high school that your children went to? I graduated high school last May and I am currently in my first year of college and life in school was pretty normal without any noticeable political influence in the halls or classrooms. A lot of the politically driven conversations happening in high schools right now for example are usually student driven without the influence of teachers or administrators. I was involved in student government (treasurer (jr) and vice president (sr)), I was on the debate team which many of the debates were obviously influenced by political events, I was a reporter and eventually an editor for the school newspaper and other school clubs that would have assumed political influence from teachers and administrators but mostly, other than some rules, we acted on our own ideology and ethics.
 
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It depends on the school district and which state. The Federal school system is as are most universities.
 
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When I could go to school in a blue state and still wind up "learning" that sex is evil and evolution isn't settled, no, education is not run by liberal thought, which is generally not so anti-science, or pro-ignorance. It's run by the same people as everything else: idiot ideologues and those who are willing to kowtow to them as though they are in any way worth paying attention to for longer than it takes to slam the door in their face and make sure it locked.
 
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Can you describe what it is that you would consider to be the "bondage of liberalism" in school, such as the high school that your children went to? I graduated high school last May and I am currently in my first year of college and life in school was pretty normal without any noticeable political influence in the halls or classrooms. A lot of the politically driven conversations happening in high schools right now for example are usually student driven without the influence of teachers or administrators. I was involved in student government (treasurer (jr) and vice president (sr)), I was on the debate team which many of the debates were obviously influenced by political events, I was a reporter and eventually an editor for the school newspaper and other school clubs that would have assumed political influence from teachers and administrators but mostly, other than some rules, we acted on our own ideology and ethics.


as a teen, or a young adult, i hope you see the world in a very idealistic way

most kids tend to do this

as you grow older, and see the world as it actually is, a lot of people change how they feel about certain things

the idealism is replaced with realism

perfect example....taxes

we know that taxes have to be paid

but how much, how they are spent, and who participates are some of the sticking points

we look at government, and again the same things

how much, how much power, whether federal or state level controlled....all sticking points

If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain

again, idealism versus reality....at least that is my take
 
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as a teen, or a young adult, i hope you see the world in a very idealistic way

most kids tend to do this

as you grow older, and see the world as it actually is, a lot of people change how they feel about certain things

the idealism is replaced with realism

perfect example....taxes

we know that taxes have to be paid

but how much, how they are spent, and who participates are some of the sticking points

we look at government, and again the same things

how much, how much power, whether federal or state level controlled....all sticking points

If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain

again, idealism versus reality....at least that is my take

I understand that and obviously I will not know if my ideals will change until I am older, but what exactly are schools, such as high schools, doing in your opinion that make the student experience one that is, in another person's words, a "bondage of liberalism"? Students are more aware than I think people give them credit for often times and so how do you differentiate the student's own beliefs and ethical view vs what you or others may believe the school system or school staff itself is doing to manipulate them or how to think liberally?
 
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I understand that and obviously I will not know if my ideals will change until I am older, but what exactly are schools, such as high schools, doing in your opinion that make the student experience one that is, in another person's words, a "bondage of liberalism"? Students are more aware than I think people give them credit for often times and so how do you differentiate the student's own beliefs and ethical view vs what you or others may believe the school system or school staff itself is doing to manipulate them or how to think liberally?


students, because of age, tend towards liberalism

they are students who dont fit that mold.....but the majority certainly do

rose colored glasses, and idealism.....

and again, the majority of academia is very liberal with some exceptions

i would hope students take information from both sides and process it.....and come up with their own beliefs

do i think that happens? not really....at least for the majority of students
 
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To the extent that education is a function of government and educators are employees of government, most educators believe in government - the bigger the better. As a political philosophy, big government is the purview of Democrats, modern day liberals. As such, educators, knowing who pays the bills and butters their bread, are supportive of Democrats and their policy goals.

On that basis, the answer to the poll question is yes.
 
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No. It's too broad of an employee base at the entry level, its state department of education staffers may be more liberal than not (then again, I've found plenty to the contrary) but the Superintendents change with the political winds, the federal department of education may have staffers that are liberal (or conservative) but important positions are political positions subject to changes in the executive branch.
 
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Um Duh? Every study of the modern education establishment, poll, and other form of measurement that we have says that Education is extremely dominated by liberals.
 
Do you believe....

Higher education is much more subject to ideological incest than the public education system is. Well, at least in the humanities. For one thing the employee base is relatively small. They also tend to be more learned which means whatever trends in academia are afoot are the ones that will dominate the intellectual atmosphere. As has been the case for multiple generations, this has been a fairly liberal if not outright Leftist viewpoint. The intensity of which was cultivated at the Ivy League universities and then filtered downward. Furthermore, given that the trend is to hire from the same dozen or so universities instead of growing their own, the incest is going to continue to spread.
 
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