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Do you feel this policeman handled this woman withen police guidelines?

Is this policeman being Brutal to this citizen

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ocean515 said:
I think the cop completely misjudged how hammered she was, and how easily she would fold when nudged even the slightest bit from upright.
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I think what we learned from this is Aikido works well on drunk 90lb females.






BTW - She was not restrained when he pivoted her over his leg.
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physically, not mechaqnically
 
gdgyva said:
70 lbs? lol

check your prescription

your answer would be to "please drunk lady, keep your arms and hands still so i can cuff you now?"

she kept struggling....he wanted her restrained....the only sure way to keep everyone safe

was the take down a little hard? maybe

do i think the cop did anything wrong? absolutely not
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look at her, she-s 70-90 lbs, TINY.

I could have gotten her on the ground without slamming her in front of her daughter.




maybe a "little hard"?


he upends her. her feet are in the air. lol


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ReverendHellh0und said:
look at her, she-s 70-90 lbs, TINY.

I could have gotten her on the ground without slamming her in front of her daughter.
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A little to the underestimating side there. She is small, but not that small.

What irks me is the mother/grandmother. She's worried about what the kid saw and expresses zero note that her daughter was driving the kid around hammered out of her skull. Makes one think this might be a regular occurrence for her.
 
clownboy said:
A little to the underestimating side there. She is small, but not that small.

What irks me is the mother/grandmother. She's worried about what the kid saw and expresses zero note that her daughter was driving the kid around hammered out of her skull. Makes one think this might be a regular occurrence for her.
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yes, the real victim in this is the daughter long before this incident.


She's tiny, and that small. The cop should have used better judgment, but it's not something he should lose his job over imo.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
yes, the real victim in this is the daughter long before this incident.


She's tiny, and that small. The cop should have used better judgment, but it's not something he should lose his job over imo.
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My adult daughter is much smaller (shorter and thinner) and she's a shade over 90lbs. So, no, the woman is not that small.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I think what we learned from this is Aikido works well on drunk 90lb females.


physically, not mechaqnically
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A fart in the right direction would have brought her down, let's not kid ourselves here. I'm thinking a misjudged face plant suffered individually is a better use of force than the amount of force that would likely be required to scrub her precious child off the dashboard and pavement if Mommy Dearest killed the kid and other people while driving through town.

BTW. What's up the "90lb female" bit? There is no reference to weight given in anything I've read. A little misplaced sympathy perhaps?
 
ocean515 said:
A fart in the right direction would have brought her down, let's not kid ourselves here. I'm thinking a misjudged face plant suffered individually is a better use of force than the amount of force that would likely be required to scrub her precious child off the dashboard and pavement if Mommy Dearest killed the kid and other people while driving through town.

BTW. What's up the "90lb female" bit? There is no reference to weight given in anything I've read. A little misplaced sympathy perhaps?
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A fart is more effective than Aikido... anyway I'm looking at the match up. and no, she ultimately should have her face smashed for driving her kid around drunk. But the police shouldn't be the ones doing it.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
A fart is more effective than Aikido... anyway I'm looking at the match up. and no, she ultimately should have her face smashed for driving her kid around drunk. But the police shouldn't be the ones doing it.
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Can we at least agree the cop misjudged the effort required to subdue her without adding his name to list of cops who deserve to be punished for their actions?
 
VanceMack said:
It does not matter how you FEEEEEL about the level to which the officer followed the protocal. Thats between the officer and the department and the department has stated in fact he DID follow protocol. FEEEEELINGS about it are irrelevant.
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99 percent of police departments always say there officers are in police protocol....
 
got that right!!!!
 
Hate to see how this cop treats his kids and wife..i know this got to rub off at the house....
 
if I tried to control my wife if she was drunk in the streets/public to gain control of her to take her home and did that..the police and judge would throw me under the jail....but the police to do it is quite ok to some people here...this cop was a real macho sissy...sorry
 
ocean515 said:
Can we at least agree the cop misjudged the effort required to subdue her without adding his name to list of cops who deserve to be punished for their actions?
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Yeah, she went limp on him at just the right, or wrong for her, moment.
 
plutonium said:
if I tried to control my wife if she was drunk in the streets/public to gain control of her to take her home and did that..the police and judge would throw me under the jail....but the police to do it is quite ok to some people here...this cop was a real macho sissy...sorry
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That's because you "trying to control" your wife is called assault.
 
joko104 said:
Why don't you list your opinion of the physical punishments police should dole out for various criminal offenses.
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NONE. Strawman. Punishment is for the court. Officers must gain compliance. And despite what some think...that is a must. You can't trust the person getting cuffs put on them. Asking that is asking the officer to take a risk that could get him killed.

Police groupies often take the position of merely saying "resisted" justifies any level of violence, whether the person is resisting or not, and regardless of the level of resistance.
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Anti police groupies/anarchists will ignore the use of force continuum at all costs. Especially when an accident occurs. Hell...the officer could be completely justified and they won't even let the body cool before they have announced the guilt of the officer. Even with no evidence.

In this case...the woman began resisting. After already demonstrating flagrant disregard for public safety (drink driving), neglected her child (drunk in public, driving drunk with kid in car), and public nuisance. The woman wasn't some "innocent little lamb." She was a scumbag. And she resisted. The officer put her down, probably predicting she was becoming more irate (I haven't heard the audio...have you?) and probably was going to cause a problem.

Not everyone is as instantly and totally submissive and passive towards government demands as your messages indicate is your view. Some people actually believe they have rights and don't instantly gravel at the feet of government.
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Those right entitles you to resist arrest after endangering your child and the public by driving drunk? Then causing a public nuisance and proceeding? Are those the rights you are talking about?
 
stonewall50 said:
NONE. Strawman. Punishment is for the court. Officers must gain compliance. And despite what some think...that is a must. You can't trust the person getting cuffs put on them. Asking that is asking the officer to take a risk that could get him killed.



Anti police groupies/anarchists will ignore the use of force continuum at all costs. Especially when an accident occurs. Hell...the officer could be completely justified and they won't even let the body cool before they have announced the guilt of the officer. Even with no evidence.

In this case...the woman began resisting. After already demonstrating flagrant disregard for public safety (drink driving), neglected her child (drunk in public, driving drunk with kid in car), and public nuisance. The woman wasn't some "innocent little lamb." She was a scumbag. And she resisted. The officer put her down, probably predicting she was becoming more irate (I haven't heard the audio...have you?) and probably was going to cause a problem.



Those right entitles you to resist arrest after endangering your child and the public by driving drunk? Then causing a public nuisance and proceeding? Are those the rights you are talking about?
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The right not to be thrown into concrete because a police officer is pissed of at you.
 
joko104 said:
The right not to be thrown into concrete because a police officer is pissed of at you.
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She resisted. Active resistance after endangering lives. I see no problem here other than the officer should have tried to put her down closer to her base. Going farther away from the base and you risks control being lost.

Nobody has a right to their stupidity risking the lives of others and other people's children. She thought she did and she resisted. Piss on her. I won't shed a tear. Hell...it isn't like he could actually damage anything in a skull where nothing is present anyway.
 
right the police never assault people assault is written in the police guidelines as acceptable lol
 
plutonium said:
right the police never assault people assault is written in the police guidelines as acceptable lol
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Apparently, if the police investigate police misconduct, and concluded the police weren't at fault, then everything is kosher.

Sounds reasonable to me.
 
the policeman is not judge dread ..why do we need a judge and jury...some of you give to much power to a human being on others people lives and health.....also he threw her down like a football player sacking a quarterback not a real man handling a drunk woman..are citizens worth anything?
 
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