The point is that people vote for what personally benefits them, which is exactly the problem with democracy.
I agree that people vote for what personally benefits them.
PEOPLE.
Not just welfare reciepients.
Which is why I disagree with limiting JUST welfare recipients from voting. And it's why I say attempts to do such, and only such, are dishonest when they're attempted to be presented as some means of protecting libtery or the integrity of the country or as a means of stopping people from "voting to benefit themselves".
As far as it goes, I'd rather live under a political system that agrees with me personally instead of being forced to go along with one that I disagree with entirely.
Well first...as I've told all the people who bitch about the constitution or not being "modern" with some of our laws or other things.
No one is "forcing" you to live in this country.
Second, I expect that everyone would rather live under a political system that agrees with them. And I expect that most people will try to turn the US into such a system; on both sides of the political spectrum.
I at least have a modicum of respect for those that will acknowledge that what they want isn't in line with the constitution, the political philosohpies the government is built on, or other such thing...but it's what they want, and thus they're pushing for it.
That's far better than those who attempt to dishonestly hide their intent, their views, thier purposes, and fraudulently try to sheath themselves in the flag, in the constitution, or in the notions of liberty or freedom. Or who act as if their arguments make logical sense in relation to those things, when in reality they only make logical sense as it relates to their ACTUAL political plans.
If someone wants to come out and say "Hey, I don't want to let Welfare recipients vote because they tend to vote Democrat and I don't want Democrats in control" then I could at least have some respect for that. I wouldn't agree, and I'd think that argument is a horrible one...but I can at least respect they're being honest.
But if someone wants to come out and say "I won't want Welfare recipients to vote because they're 'takers' who will just use their vote to put into power those who will give them more money" then I've got little to no real respect for that, because it's inconsistent bull**** due to their focus on only one of a MULTITUDE of classes of people who could be percieved as "takers" and who use their vote to put into power those who will cause government money to flow into their pockets.