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Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

Should marijuana be legalized nationwide?


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William Randolph Hurst was the big promotor of criminalization of hemp, which at the time was a competitor of paper. Hurst, an investor in lumber industry and newspaper mogul.
 

Alright so one sociologist thinks the AMA is a "temperance-oriented organization" in his words when it comes to alcohol. Because of one sociologist's paper on alcohol use, makes the American Medical Association's opinion on marijuana worthless? That still leaves the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and the American Society of Addiction Medicine who oppose legalization. For me, when you have that many scientists/doctors in multiple associations against it, it suggests to me there must be some real concerns.
 
LOL You are the one that said it! I just provided some parallels LOL
Lursa what I stated were observations of criminal activity where I live. In the Columbus Ohio area, those who get arrested for criminal activity often have marijuana in their possession. I should have included other drugs as well. We have a serious drug problem here. Right now the biggest concern is the number of teenagers getting addicted to heroine.
 
Whose making anything up? The information from doctors and their organizations have been warning people not to fall the happy horse **** you are espousing as if marijuana has not real risks.

for instance



Cannabis and mental health

You can overdose from drinking too much water.

You can't overdose from smoking too much marijuana.

Facts are pesky.
 
You can overdose from drinking too much water.

You can't overdose from smoking too much marijuana.

Facts are pesky.

alright beefheart, you know more than the scientists/physicians. Got it! Thanks for setting me straight!
 
Lursa what I stated were observations of criminal activity where I live. In the Columbus Ohio area, those who get arrested for criminal activity often have marijuana in their possession. I should have included other drugs as well. We have a serious drug problem here. Right now the biggest concern is the number of teenagers getting addicted to heroine.

I'll bet they have cell phones in their possession too. Let's outlaw them.
 
alright beefheart, you know more than the scientists/physicians. Got it! Thanks for setting me straight!

Please point out the fallacy of my statement. You can't, and being sarcastic isn't helping you.

Please produce the statistics of how many people have died from overdosing on marijuana.
 
There are no cases of overdosing on marijuana recorded. But there are plenty of cases where it was a risk factor in deaths due to injury.

And this just last year out of Colorado

Two Denver deaths tied to recreational marijuana use - CBS News

Again, you can tie anything to a death. How many people do stupid things that result in death because they were drunk? You talk a lot about personal responsibility, this is a case here. The marijuana didn't cause their deaths.

Lots of things in this world are far far far more harmful than pot, you just believed all the BS the anti pot crowd lied about for decades.
 
There are no cases of overdosing on marijuana recorded. But there are plenty of cases where it was a risk factor in deaths due to injury.

And this just last year out of Colorado

Two Denver deaths tied to recreational marijuana use - CBS News

I highly doubt either of these accounts, but if that is a reason not to legalize then you better outlaw booze this instant.

What is the carnage annually on highways directly caused by drunk drivers in comparison to two deaths thought to be linked in two average everyday deaths in the United States. If you want to reverse the legalization in Colorado based on these two lonely reports against a backdrop of millions dying on the highways, thousands dying by hand gun. In the second you might as well ban hand guns.

Considering how many use it, how long its been around, the proven medical benefits, proven social benefits, two highly suspicious cases in a weak fulcrum n which to leverage further restrictions.
 
Again, you can tie anything to a death. How many people do stupid things that result in death because they were drunk? You talk a lot about personal responsibility, this is a case here. The marijuana didn't cause their deaths.

Lots of things in this world are far far far more harmful than pot, you just believed all the BS the anti pot crowd lied about for decades.

Too many scientists/physicians disagree with you, I have my reservations on legalization because of the adverse affects it could have on society. I would feel better if associations of these scientists from sociologists to psychiatrists and those who deal with addictions would not be against legalization.
 
I highly doubt either of these accounts, but if that is a reason not to legalize then you better outlaw booze this instant.

What is the carnage annually on highways directly caused by drunk drivers in comparison to two deaths thought to be linked in two average everyday deaths in the United States. If you want to reverse the legalization in Colorado based on these two lonely reports against a backdrop of millions dying on the highways, thousands dying by hand gun. In the second you might as well ban hand guns.

Considering how many use it, how long its been around, the proven medical benefits, proven social benefits, two highly suspicious cases in a weak fulcrum n which to leverage further restrictions.

Mornin F&L. Tell you what, when the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and the American Society of Addiction Medicine no longer oppose legalization, then I will no longer have any reservations.
 
Too many scientists/physicians disagree with you, I have my reservations on legalization because of the adverse affects it could have on society. I would feel better if associations of these scientists from sociologists to psychiatrists and those who deal with addictions would not be against legalization.

Not true. Again, there have been zero cases of anyone ever dying from overdosing on pot. Marijuana has medical uses, it is used all the time.

Adverse affects on society? Drunks beat their wives, start fights, etc, someone on pot doesn't. I'd rather have a stoned society than a drunk society.

For decades the US blocked all kinds of studies into marijuana, because the failed war on drugs and hysteria and hype. We are learning all kinds of wonderful things about this plant.

People smoke pot, and the sky didn't fall. It is a safe product, borne out by the facts. You don't want to see that....yet, you are OK with liquor being legal, pure hypocrisy.
 
Not true. Again, there have been zero cases of anyone ever dying from overdosing on pot. Marijuana has medical uses, it is used all the time.

Adverse affects on society? Drunks beat their wives, start fights, etc, someone on pot doesn't. I'd rather have a stoned society than a drunk society.

For decades the US blocked all kinds of studies into marijuana, because the failed war on drugs and hysteria and hype. We are learning all kinds of wonderful things about this plant.

People smoke pot, and the sky didn't fall. It is a safe product, borne out by the facts. You don't want to see that....yet, you are OK with liquor being legal, pure hypocrisy.
Like I stated to F&L, the day the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and the American Society of Addiction Medicine no longer oppose legalization, then I will no longer have any reservations.
 
Mornin F&L. Tell you what, when the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and the American Society of Addiction Medicine no longer oppose legalization, then I will no longer have any reservations.

The Canadian Medical Association, The British Columbia Medial Association, the Supreme Court of Canada and the Canadian College of Psychiatrists are all on board.

That is good enough for me.

And when a mainstream media outlet has real evidence, not hearsay on a blog, reports an actual serious medical problem I will have a second look.

Monday, 200,000 people gathered in Vancouver to sell, promote, smoke and celebrate marijuana. I checked. 17 medical calls from ENT's on hand, the worst was sprained ankle. Reported acts of violence: 0. Worst case for cops, crowd control.m Most interesting call as cops as first responders: a woman going into hyopthermia because she was topless and in shorts.

The record is pretty clear
 
Yes, of course! Treat it like alcohol, and there you go.
 
Too many scientists/physicians disagree with you, I have my reservations on legalization because of the adverse affects it could have on society. I would feel better if associations of these scientists from sociologists to psychiatrists and those who deal with addictions would not be against legalization.

Adverse impact on society...tax money raised for education, less people in jail, knocks down the drug cartels. Works for me. Marijuana isn't addictive, certainly nothing like alcohol or tobacco, which you don't want to ban.
 
They are people who willingly choose to reduce their ability to contribute to society. No surprise how much socialism appeals to druggies.

I worked for 40 years as a machinist and smoked weed most of that time. I contributed much more to the company than a fork lift operator.
 
Not only should it be legalized but that fat **** tyrant chris christie, along with everyone at the DEA, should be restricted to a weed only diet

Bad idea. Christie's appetite alone would result in an increased demand which would drive the prices up.
 
So it is an ignorant person that listens to the advice of the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and the American Society of Addiction Medicine who oppose the legalization of marijuana?

Ignorant people dont examine all the factors and information and apply critical thinking.
 
If there is such a mountain of scientific evidence that shows pot to be harmless why is the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry and the American Society of Addiction Medicine against legalization?

Because it's politically correct? Because they dont want it in the hands of kids? Because they go hand in hand with Big Pharmacy which doesnt want to see it legalized? If caffeine was illegal, would you support the AMA keeping it that way? Plenty of evidence that it's harmful, esp. in large quanties. Or..should they just start a movement to make it illegal?

And you continue to ignore that their approval has nothing to do with whether or not things are 'legal.' Like sugar, white flour, transfats, cigarettes, caffeine, alcohol. Do you want all those things that arguably do more damage to Americans that abuse them should be illegal? Get the govt to really become a nanny state?
 
Lursa what I stated were observations of criminal activity where I live. In the Columbus Ohio area, those who get arrested for criminal activity often have marijuana in their possession. I should have included other drugs as well. We have a serious drug problem here. Right now the biggest concern is the number of teenagers getting addicted to heroine.

Yes, you should have included the other drugs as well. Nothing like attempting to slant your information. People certainly act differently on meth and angel dust and heroin. And they have to pay a buttload more to do those drugs and hence more criminal activity. Pot is pretty cheap compared to 'other drugs' and it mostly makes people non-violent.

You havent produced the links to the 'truckloads of pot' coming out of CO yet and a couple of us asked....
 
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