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Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

Should marijuana be legalized nationwide?


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I didn't say I favored any system except one that demands personal responsibility for one's choices. If we had a government that required persons to take personal responsibility for their own life choices, half the over bloated budget in Washington would be null and void. If you want the freedom of taking drugs same thing applies. When you are willing to not put those members in society who actually do pay taxes and do avoid things like drug addiction, who do put their lives on hold denying any personal wants to achieve those goals because of educational goals, who provide for their own families without the need of government assistance, who plan for their retirement so they will not be a burden to society.....who are already overtaxed in many instances to provide for those who can't seem to get their **** together.

Personal Responsibility

Until you are willing to concede to that then you can talk all the jive time nickel dime crap you want.

So what are you advocating? End the war on drugs? Continue to make drugs illegal? What are you advocating? You are saying you are in favor of "personal responsibility", but what does that imply for drug policy of the state?
 
Two points.

First, hundreds of thousands of people smoke pot regularly and are upstanding, tax paying citizens. Some are even doctors, lawyers, engineers and scientists, politicians and even a couple of Presidents of the United States (though they they are former smokers). So maybe you need to get out of stereotype land every once in a while and see the real world.

Second. I'm fine with personal responsibility.

Personal responsibility is paramount. If it isn't made so, then this country will go down in flames because of the burden it will put on those who actually pay taxes. and I think there are some among us are hoping for just that demise.
 
Personal responsibility is paramount. If it isn't made so, then this country will go down in flames because of the burden it will put on those who actually pay taxes. and I think there are some among us are hoping for just that demise.

So lock people up for smoking weed? Or dont?
 
So lock people up for smoking weed? Or dont?
Start demanding people take personal responsibility for their own choices in life and not demanding the taxpayers pick up the tab for all their missteps and we wouldn't be having this discussion.
 
Start demanding people take personal responsibility for their own choices in life and not demanding the taxpayers pick up the tab for all their missteps and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Hyperbolic nonsense
 
Start demanding people take personal responsibility for their own choices in life and not demanding the taxpayers pick up the tab for all their missteps and we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I'll ask again: So lock people up for smoking weed? Or dont? Should marijuana be legalized?
 
you want to have choices you do not have to be personally responsible for. That is obvious. You don't give a damn of the guy who puts his life on hold for eight years doing things right to be successful. You just want to be a leach on him for his success to pay for the policies you promoted that don't require personal responsibility. Tough being you.

It is no surprise that those to whom socialism most appeals are those who would expect and hope to be able to claim the lowest ability to contribute to society, relative to the needs that they expect society to provide for them. And it is certainly no surprise to note the correlation between that, and an affinity for the abuse of harmful drugs.

The idea of personal responsibility is anathema to that sort.
 
It is no surprise that those to whom socialism most appeals are those who would expect and hope to be able to claim the lowest ability to contribute to society, relative to the needs that they expect society to provide for them. And it is certainly no surprise to note the correlation between that, and an affinity for the abuse of harmful drugs.

The idea of personal responsibility is anathema to that sort.

People who smoke pot are members of society who have "the lowest ability"?
 
Hyperbolic nonsense

Only to someone who does not respect the burden that is placed on those who do not take personal responsibility for their choices in life and expect those who do pay taxes pick up the tab for them. For if personal responsibility was reestablished as it was always intended, the debt would start to melt away, and people would all enjoy the freedoms they were intended to possess. Want to smoke a joint? be your pleasure as long as you take personal responsibility for your actions. If you want to smoke pot, pay for it without depriving your family of its needs, fine. If you want to smoke pot or do any other drugs to get high and engage in sexual behavior that produces a child, that isn't the taxpayers concern either. As long as you understand these simple facts and are willing to agree to them, then be my guest and get high.
 
I'll ask again: So lock people up for smoking weed? Or dont? Should marijuana be legalized?
When you are willing to accept personal responsibility for all your life choices instead of imprisoning those who make good and sound choices often leading to great success and expecting them to pay out the ass to clean up the poor choices of others.
 
When you are willing to accept personal responsibility for all your life choices instead of imprisoning those who make good and sound choices often leading to great success and expecting them to pay out the ass to clean up the poor choices of others.

Can you answer the question? I guess Ill try to ask again: So lock people up for smoking weed? Or dont? Should marijuana be legalized?
 
Ex-pot smoker here. I fully support, unconditionally, the complete legalization of pot, present and retroactively.

That said, if the day ever comes that weed is legalized and you're still bitching incessantly about pot, I will personally push for the life imprisonment of every man, woman and child who ever came into contact with marijuana. Because compared to people who don't have free elections, access to clean water, education, housing, electricity, and health care, I am so unbelievably sick of listening to your crap.

Then stop reading his posts.
 
They are people who willingly choose to reduce their ability to contribute to society. No surprise how much socialism appeals to druggies.

Smoking pot "reduces your ability to contribute to society"? How so?
 
Only to someone who does not respect the burden that is placed on those who do not take personal responsibility for their choices in life and expect those who do pay taxes pick up the tab for them. For if personal responsibility was reestablished as it was always intended, the debt would start to melt away, and people would all enjoy the freedoms they were intended to possess. Want to smoke a joint? be your pleasure as long as you take personal responsibility for your actions. If you want to smoke pot, pay for it without depriving your family of its needs, fine. If you want to smoke pot or do any other drugs to get high and engage in sexual behavior that produces a child, that isn't the taxpayers concern either. As long as you understand these simple facts and are willing to agree to them, then be my guest and get high.

Blah blah blah. No one has ever overdoesed on marijuana, it is quite safe. It is a plant that has been around for millions of years, thanks to the creator. Are you for banning alcohol and tobacco as well? If you aren't then you are a hypocrite. I'm not depriving my family of their needs at all, my dog is happy and healthy.

(where are those people who "get high and engage in sexual behavior" women at? I need to be there)
 
Smoking pot "reduces your ability to contribute to society"? How so?

It sure hasn't hurt my record collection.

People who spout off that kind of nonsense would crap themselves if they knew how many recreational marijuana users were the exact types of productive members of society that they claim pot smokers can't be.
 
If you're too blind to see it yourself, then I do not know what I or anyone else could tell you to make you see what you refuse to see.

Go right ahead. Please, explain.
 
Smoking pot "reduces your ability to contribute to society"? How so?

Lets ask the question another way. Does alcohol case auto accidents? Of course the answer is yes. So in that case alcohol surly is not contributing to society. The same could be said for Pot and all the other drugs for that matter. I'm not saying we should ban alcohol, but in the true sense alcohol and pot does reduce one's ability to contribute. I would not call alcohol related deaths contribute to anything except increasing the death rate.
 
At the very least decriminalization of small amounts for personal use.
 
Blah blah blah. No one has ever overdoesed on marijuana, it is quite safe. It is a plant that has been around for millions of years, thanks to the creator. Are you for banning alcohol and tobacco as well? If you aren't then you are a hypocrite. I'm not depriving my family of their needs at all, my dog is happy and healthy.

(where are those people who "get high and engage in sexual behavior" women at? I need to be there)

Blahh blah blah, there are studies that show those who partake in regular usage of mary jane lose interest in getting the heck off the couch to even go to work. It is no different with the alcoholic who has no problem collecting any government funding to assist him "in his time of need" yet will purchase a case of beer on his own dime at walmart while he charges the government to pick up the tab for his child's eyeglasses for just about the same price.
 
Lets ask the question another way. Does alcohol case auto accidents? Of course the answer is yes. So in that case alcohol surly is not contributing to society. The same could be said for Pot and all the other drugs for that matter. I'm not saying we should ban alcohol, but in the true sense alcohol and pot does reduce one's ability to contribute. I would not call alcohol related deaths contribute to anything except increasing the death rate.

So we should ban marijuana because during time of use its intoxicating?
 
Blahh blah blah, there are studies that show those who partake in regular usage of mariguana lose interest in getting the heck off the couch to even go to work. It is no different with the alcoholic who has no problem collecting any government funding to assist him "in his time of need" yet will purchase a case of beer on his own dime at walmart while he charges the government to pick up the tab for his child's eyeglasses for just about the same price.

Really? You have never worked in high tech or know much about Silicon Valley do you? Lots of engineers smoke every day with no problem.

So, my question again: Are you for banning tobacco or alcohol? Because if you aren't, it's hypocrisy.
 
Really? You have never worked in high tech or know much about Silicon Valley do you? Lots of engineers smoke every day with no problem.

So, my question again: Are you for banning tobacco or alcohol? Because if you aren't, it's hypocrisy.

I don't give a damn what you do as long as you can take personal responsibility for it. If you can't make that commitment then to hell with you. Those carrying the tax load deserve better than that.
 
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