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Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?


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It does me...a lot, but then I recognize that my views on animals are not the same as everyone else's. Just curious if my views are somewhat "extreme" when it comes to animal welfare.

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It does me...a lot, but then I recognize that my views on animals are not the same as everyone else's. Just curious if my views are somewhat "extreme" when it comes to animal welfare.

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Seems pretty normal to me. If you did not feel anything like a sociopath... then you got problems.
 
Animals? No. Mammals? Yes if the suffering is due to negligence/abuse
 
Yes, it bothers me a lot. I try to avoid stories of abuse, cruelty and neglect, though I'm not always successful at that. I read a horrible story about the dolphins people swim with in the Caribbean, which I will not share.

Doesn't matter what kind of animal either. Mammals, reptiles, fish or birds, if they are suffering/suffered, it bothers me.
 
It does me...a lot, but then I recognize that my views on animals are not the same as everyone else's. Just curious if my views are somewhat "extreme" when it comes to animal welfare.

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Mostly, of course, I am protective of my cat.
 
Yes, but I am a very good shot and my goal is to kill them quickly and with the least amount of suffering. Some may think it's cruel, but it is a whole lot nicer than eating them alive.
 
It bothers me immensely. Of course I have to weigh that against the hypocrisy of me not being a vegetarian, knowing how the animals are treated; that all need to be reformed. But yeah, such as poaching, whaling and other such barbarism should be met with instant death. Penalties for the abuse of domestic pets should be similarly harsh. The sickass shitbags who torture animals for fun should likewise be tortured beyond their limits. I think at that point, you've pretty much relinquished any rights you might otherwise have taken for granted. Like that guy who tied his dog to a tree and set it on fire. Had it been my call, he would have met with a horrific fate.
 
It does me...a lot, but then I recognize that my views on animals are not the same as everyone else's. Just curious if my views are somewhat "extreme" when it comes to animal welfare.

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Watch any episode of Big Cat Diary on APL, and you will see large cats killing prey using their teeth and claws.

One can reasonably observe that man has dominion over animals, which would entail killing them when necessary for self defense and consumption.

Morons who do not understand the circle of life, and the predator / prey relationship will cry about any animal death, which is ignorant.

Animals have no rights, but they should be treated with reasonable civility unless they are required for food or need to be killed when attacking humans.

Animals should not be killed for sport or to be mean, but necessary culling is sometimes required to reduce overpopulation.

Personally, I don't believe in killing for sport, but I have no issues with killing humanely for food.

Having said all of this, know that my dog is a valued family member, and I will utilize deadly force to protect my dog, just like the human members of my nuclear family.
 
Yes...just a second...'yes, and can I have fries with my Big Mac?'...sorry about that, where was I?

Oh yeah, it bothers me.
 
It bothers me immensely. Of course I have to weigh that against the hypocrisy of me not being a vegetarian, knowing how the animals are treated; that all need to be reformed. But yeah, such as poaching, whaling and other such barbarism should be met with instant death. Penalties for the abuse of domestic pets should be similarly harsh. The sickass shitbags who torture animals for fun should likewise be tortured beyond their limits. I think at that point, you've pretty much relinquished any rights you might otherwise have taken for granted. Like that guy who tied his dog to a tree and set it on fire. Had it been my call, he would have met with a horrific fate.

Add that evil ***hole that cut the hind legs off a puppy and left him to die. Fortunately someone found him and he's in a good home now, but what about the others that no one finds? Talk about cruelty!
 
It depends on what you mean by suffering. Unnecessarily? On purpose? Sure. But all living things "suffer" to a certain extent, you can't get away from it.
 
It is wrong to make animals suffer unnecessarily--since when is gratuitous cruelty to helpless creatures something any civilized person can accept? I don't know just what I would have done if I had ever seen anyone lay a hand on my cat, but I am sure it would have gotten me into a lot of legal trouble if anyone other than the guilty party had found out about it.
 
Quite a bit.

Do I try to conform my consumer and diet choices to that? Yes. Am I a complete vegetarian? No, though I primary eat fish. I don't feel it is wrong to eat meat. I do feel it's wrong to torture animals in the process of killing them, which the vast majority of modern farming does.

I prefer sticking to fish for a couple of reasons. One, it's the easiest animal to get on a sustainable and wild-caught basis, as long as you're willing to pay the money for it. Two, I actually do think oily fish is vital for me personally, whereas mammal meat actually makes me feel sluggish and bloated so I don't have much desire for it anyway. It tastes good, but I always regret it the next day when all I want to do is lay on the couch watching YouTube.

I do feed mammals and poultry to my cat, and I do my best to try to source it ethically, to varying degrees of success depending on my location. Contrary to popular belief, a diet heavy in fish is not that great for cats -- it's just all there was during WWII, so it kind of caught popularity -- so I try to avoid feeding her too much of it. At the end of the day, she doesn't have the option of altering her diet the way I do, and she has to eat. So sometimes I know less about where her food comes from than I'd like to, simply by necessity.

I tend to avoid clothing made of animal products, because it's usually sourced from even more horrific means than meat. Often animals are skinned alive for their fur, which most of the developed world sources from China which has practically no animal protections at all.

I'd consider vintage leather, pre-80's or so, or leather sold from an individual crafter. But not the typical sort you find on your average high street. It's almost impossible to figure out where it comes from or how they made it, and chances are you don't want to know anyway, at least if you like sleeping soundly.
 
Add that evil ***hole that cut the hind legs off a puppy and left him to die. Fortunately someone found him and he's in a good home now, but what about the others that no one finds? Talk about cruelty!
I know, dude. I can't bear to think on it too long. ****s my head up.

I'm glad the puppy was rescued.
 
Yes, of course it bothers me. I've posted enough posts on this board about my involvement with animal rescue that anyone would know that. Are your views extreme? No.

Anyone who takes pleasure in an animal suffering is not good human.
 
Yes, a lot.

Torture of animals is for psychopaths - I mean, what did that harmless little kitty, bird, guinea pig, bunny rabbit, etc. ever do to anyone?
 
Yes, a lot.

Torture of animals is for psychopaths - I mean, what did that harmless little kitty, bird, guinea pig, bunny rabbit, etc. ever do to anyone?

They used to do lobotomies for lesser things than this; maybe we should start doing them again.
 
yes...its bothers me immensely...animal cruelty is a crime that I cant tolerate..any animal suffering hurts my heart..I only wish I could be a vegan but I am not, and that does conflict me at times..
 
Pretty much, especially scorpions, **** scorpions

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I'm not sure that all animals suffer just like a human is suffering, I think that suffering relating to consciousness and time awareness which I don't think all the animals have that. For example, if ISIS will chop my leg I will feel unbearable pain at the moment and after that I will suffer from the thoughts that ISIS put an end to my soccer career, I won't have leg for the rest of my life, the memory of the accident or no woman will ever want to marry a guy without a leg and so on. So of course chickens can feel pain, but I'm doubt they can suffer like humans are as I tried to show before.
 
It does me...a lot, but then I recognize that my views on animals are not the same as everyone else's. Just curious if my views are somewhat "extreme" when it comes to animal welfare.

Working on poll.

Depends on what you mean by suffering. Animals having drugs and other things experimented on them for the benefit of humans doesn't bother me. This will benefit us and animals. People raising animals for food and clothing doesn't bother me assuming the animals are put down humanely as possible before being processed. Now people putting animals in tiny cages or aquariums/pools, people torturing animals for the hell of it and people simply not caring for the animals they have does bother.
 
I'm not sure that all animals suffer just like a human is suffering, I think that suffering relating to consciousness and time awareness which I don't think all the animals have that. For example, if ISIS will chop my leg I will feel unbearable pain at the moment and after that I will suffer from the thoughts that ISIS put an end to my soccer career, I won't have leg for the rest of my life, the memory of the accident or no woman will ever want to marry a guy without a leg and so on. So of course chickens can feel pain, but I'm doubt they can suffer like humans are as I tried to show before.

There are a great number of animals who show lasting emotional trauma. Even rodents and birds. It's not as rare in the animal kingdom as many humans like to believe.

If you've ever worked with rescue animals (I have -- my cat happens to be one), it is very clear that they have memories and experience emotional suffering, despite the fact that most domestic animals don't rank very high in the order of animal intelligence.
 
Words cannot express how upset I get even reading stories about what people have done to helpless animals. It hits me viscerally. I'm the one who instantly flips the channel when images of tortured animals suddenly appear on the screen. I live in a rural county, and newspaper photos of emaciated horses left to starve and die of thirst make me literally break into tears.

I know it's illogical, because in the wild animals torture and eat each other, but when it comes to domesticated pets being abused for sport, or game animals suffering with multiple arrows just because some idiot wanted target practice, I just get crazy. I simply can't allow myself to dwell on this kind of evil because it eats me up inside. :(
 
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