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Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

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SMTA said:
Silly me - what was I thinking!?
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I know! We need to actively fight labor unions, destroy the minimum wage, and repeal child labor laws! MOAR PROFIT, YAHHH.
 
Born Free said:
My question was "is it unpatriotic to buy foreign made goods." You answered in the affirmative.
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I don't give a damn about patriotism, I don't try to associate myself with one nation, we are all human beings.
 
Dovkan said:
I can care less about patriotism, the united states...
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A Commie who does not care about Culture, Values, and Nationhood? I am shocked..

If you care so little why not move to Cuba?

Why not? Because you love the benefits of a Capitalist nation and its superior standers of living.
 
Dovkan said:
I don't give a damn about patriotism, I don't try to associate myself with one nation, we are all human beings.
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OK then I take it that it is not unpatriotic for a US company to make goods in a foreign country.
 
AmericanSpartan said:
A Commie who does not care about Culture, Values, and Nationhood? I am shocked..

If you care so little why not move to Cuba?

Why not? Because you love the benefits of a Capitalist nation and its superior standers of living.
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Patriotism closely relates to nationalism, I don't have an attachment to the hilarious culture of America. Why not move to Cuba? I have no reason to, my family lives here.
 
Born Free said:
OK then I take it that it is not unpatriotic for a US company to make goods in a foreign country.
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I don't care about patriotism, but if I looked at that view, it would be "unpatriotic" although I can care less about patriotism, as I've said.
 
Dovkan said:
Patriotism closely relates to nationalism, I don't have an attachment to the hilarious culture of America. Why not move to Cuba? I have no reason to, my family lives here.
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So in other words you love your idea of how you want things to be but no attachment to see them in action...Typical
 
AmericanSpartan said:
So in other words you love your idea of how you want things to be but no attachment to see them in action...Typical
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Cuba isn't communism in action, mr spartan, and I will not talk about communism in this thread, your posting history is an embarrassment, wouldn't want to make it worse on you.
 
AmericanSpartan said:
Factor in by higher costs of regulations, energy, and the train wreak of the Unfavorable Heathcare Act its just the pushing them away and we blame them for trying to stay alive.
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Those items reflect the cost of doing business in a civilized country.

The Chinese unregulated business use lead paint for kid's toys, and use formaldehyde in flooring and drywall.

I'll take the reasonable regulations any day of the week.
 
Dovkan said:
Patriotism closely relates to nationalism, I don't have an attachment to the hilarious culture of America. Why not move to Cuba? I have no reason to, my family lives here.
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Now that's odd, there must be better counties that practice your views over the US, that you would much more enjoy living.
 
Born Free said:
Now that's odd, there must be better counties that practice your views over the US.
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No country in existence practices socialism or communism, you show me ONE socialist country where the workers control the means of production, you show me ONE stateless, moneyless, classless society.
 
Born Free said:
Because I never got a response
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Wrong! You got a response, you just didn't listen to it.


Born Free said:
I take from your answer you do buy foreign made goods. And as you point out you are unpatriotic.
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Wrong again because I said all things equal. Meaning that given two products, one made in China, one made in the U.S., if the availability is the same, if the price is the same, if your knew that one was made in the U.S. and one in China, AND YOU STILL BOUGHT THE PRODUCT MADE IN CHINA, then that would be unpatriotic. Get it?

Born Free said:
Further I suggest when you impose tariffs, they also will impose tariffs on us shipping goods to them. You accomplish nothing.
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No our markets are a lot bigger then their's and as such they have a lot more to lose than we would.

Born Free said:
Also as you suggest it is difficult to avoid buying foreign made goods and that is because we are in and part of a world economy. Shut the doors and be an isolationist will destroy our economy.
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And what I am saying is that it was a big mistake to have gone down that road and shipped our manufacturing capacity overseas in the first place. That whole whack notion was sold with the snake oil that you could create an economy based on services.
 
Dovkan said:
Cuba isn't communism in action, mr spartan, and I will not talk about communism in this thread, your posting history is an embarrassment, wouldn't want to make it worse on you.
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Ah yes the "its not communism" or "it is not true communism" bit. Classic.

Your ideology`s history is a embarrassment.
 
phattonez said:
Solving the employment problems that we have in this country involves eliminating the minimum wage, getting rid of mandated benefits, and ending manipulation of interest rates to encourage saving.
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If we did those first things, we likely wouldn't have to worry too much about encouraging saving, as few people would have any money to save.

You do understand that when consumers save more, that means they aren't consuming as much, and thus businesses don't expand, and new jobs aren't created (they are actually destroyed), don't you? And you do realize that when workers recieve less compensation, they spend less and save less don't you?

What you just did was to outline a race to the bottom. In no time we would have third world poverty.
 
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Dovkan said:
No country in existence practices socialism or communism, you show me ONE socialist country where the workers control the means of production, you show me ONE stateless, moneyless, classless society.
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So in short you want what it is, not how is practiced because of human nature.

In short you want the Narina.

He is right, if America is awful please leave. I will pay a tax if such a program existed for help people like you leave America.
 
SMTA said:
Those items reflect the cost of doing business in a civilized country.

The Chinese unregulated business use lead paint for kid's toys, and use formaldehyde in flooring and drywall.

I'll take the reasonable regulations any day of the week.
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No one side they should not be some regulations, but when you fine a company 100,000 for not issuing ear plugs for workers who do not need them things are out of control.
 
AmericanSpartan said:
Ah yes the "its not communism" or "it is not true communism" bit. Classic.

Your ideology`s history is a embarrassment.
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It's literally not a bit, tell me the definition of communism, show me one thing that is even REMOTELY close.
 
AmericanSpartan said:
So in short you want what it is, not how is practiced because of human nature.

In short you want the Narina.

He is right, if America is awful please leave. I will pay a tax if such a program existed for help people like you leave America.
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It has never been practiced, again, the human nature argument is hilarious, human nature goes both ways, and is influenced by the system in place.
 
Dovkan said:
No country in existence practices socialism or communism, you show me ONE socialist country where the workers control the means of production, you show me ONE stateless, moneyless, classless society.
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That is an interesting post, the reason there is none is because your theory does not work. Period
 
AmericanSpartan said:
No one side they should not be some regulations, but when you fine a company 100,000 for not issuing ear plugs for workers who do not need them things are out of control.
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Not based upon this one tiny example.

The U.S. is not currently over regulated.

If it was, US corporations would not be making any profit, and shift all production overseas.

That is not happening.

Reasonable regulation is necessary.
 
Born Free said:
That is an interesting post, the reason there is none is because your theory does not work. Period
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You assume it doesn't work when it's never even been close to implemented, I'm in for some good comedy tonight.
 
Dovkan said:
You assume it doesn't work when it's never even been close to implemented, I'm in for some good comedy tonight.
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I find it fascinating that bastardized communism in Russia and China have always benefited the ruling elite and screwed the working class folks.

Capitalism, when implemented correctly and fairly, is excellent.
 
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