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Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?


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It's a really ignorant question. What does outsourcing jobs by a company to make money have to do with patriotism??? That's like asking is it patriotic to go on vacation in another country?
 
It might be a smart business decision but it certainly isn't patriotic.
 
The U.S. foreign policy establishment appears to think that the rise of China's power that is associated with the wealth that they have gained from such outsourcing is a problem.

If this is true, then where are the sweeping changes in current laws?

As long as the goods made in China have sufficient demand from US customers, then there is no problem.

U.S. consumers who only want low prices will continue to buy Chinese made goods, and U.S. companies will continue to outsource their manufacturing.

Nothing will change, and Chinese outsourcing will increase.
 
I'm with Redress on this one...

that said, I think the phrase " the chief business of the American people is business." hold much truth.

business/commerce reigns supreme... as it should.
 
:lamo

Any rate, since you made a response this time, I will reciprocate. The problem with what you have said here is that you appear to think that businesses should be solely motivated by profit. This is a flawed notion. There are ethical concerns, environmental concerns, and humanitarian concerns that should be taken into consideration as well. Why? Because these are the characteristics of civilized human beings that distinguish them from animals in the jungle who only care about their next meal to the exclusion of all else. As a result of these types of considerations, certainly we can say that patriotism should be a factor when making such a decision to outsource jobs.
Never happen - shareholders will push for increased stock value - patriotism has no tangible value.

Your opinion has no value in relation to US corporate profit objectives.
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?

That would be CORPORATIONS outsourcing to China. CORPORATIONS are loyal to the strong currency. They are not people. They operate with beancounters and profit/loss motivations, not patriotism. Does that make Citizens United seem like a Greek tragicomedy. Why would we confront the rise of 1.3 billion citizens in a huge geographical location 8,000 miles away? Look within this Nation of ours to cure the bad management because we keep getting morons and stooges for candidates for the leadership jobs. The good ones are not supported by the Oligarchy.
 
It's a really ignorant question. What does outsourcing jobs by a company to make money have to do with patriotism??? That's like asking is it patriotic to go on vacation in another country?

Not a damn thing.

Consumers and shareholders don't care.
 
Is it unpatriotic to buy foreign made products?



I'mma say yes, even though I admit I've done it. It's not easy to find American made products these days, harder to find a decent bargain in same, and half the time when you DO buy something supposedly "American", you find out part of it was STILL made overseas.


What's needed is trade policy that discourages outsourcing and sending industry overseas.
 
I would say so. You live here, you do business here, our military will protect you form invasion, the police will protect your property, yet you cant keep jobs here?
 
If this is true, then where are the sweeping changes in current laws?

That I suppose is the question. Are you saying that such concerns are merely political hype?
 
Is it unpatriotic to buy goods produced outside of this country? Because if you buy products made in other countries because they are cheaper than products made in this country you are giving the US manufacturers no choice but to go out of business or find more competitive manufacturing, which is what has happened. That is unless you think its patriotic for a company and its investors to manufacture and sell products at a loss.
 
Never happen - shareholders will push for increased stock value - patriotism has no tangible value.

Your opinion has no value in relation to US corporate profit objectives.

Realistically legitimate businesses do have to take the things that I mentioned into consideration. How much effect it has on business decisions may vary, but the such considerations are there. I think at some point, if the threat does indeed become substantial enough, government does start to take action. Take Russia for instance, quite a few U.S. companies have had their business activities in Russia restricted due to U.S. sanctions. Of course one could say that they only did it because they were forced to do so by the government. Although that is likely true, what it demonstrates is that there is more than the profit motive to consider when doing business with foreign countries. Other factors do have a substantial impact on business decisions.
 
Realistically legitimate businesses do have to take the things that I mentioned into consideration. How much effect it has on business decisions may vary, but the such considerations are there. I think at some point, if the threat does indeed become substantial enough, government does start to take action. Take Russia for instance, quite a few U.S. companies have had their business activities in Russia restricted due to U.S. sanctions. Of course one could say that they only did it because they were forced to do so by the government. Although that is likely true, what it demonstrates is that there is more than the profit motive to consider when doing business with foreign countries. Other factors do have a substantial impact on business decisions.

Nope.

If these issues that bother you really bothered lawmakers and U.S. consumers, there would be sweeping changes.

There will be no changes.
 
Hey, it's all about finding that cheap labor, paying cheap wages...
 

You could be right. That said, I think there are some, particularly some neoconservatives, who are paranoid about China.
 
Is it unpatriotic to buy foreign made products?

That is the better question and my answer is that patriotism plays little (if any) role in my personal buying decisions A company basically just wants to gain market share, maximize profits and cares little about where the products are made. As a consumer my interest is in getting a needed product, of decent quality, at the least cost; I cannot justify paying far more to get a US made (at least so advertised) product when I can get a foreign made product instead.

Using a circular saw as an example, the top rated saws are mostly foreign made and I boughht a Rigid (Chinese made) model; it cost me under $100, has a good case, a rip guide, 12-foot cord, cuts very fast & true and has no parts welded to the base plate allowing for easy replacement of damaged parts. Typically the depth of cut adjustment bar gets damaged when a saw is dropped and most are welded to the base plate. Replacement parts are readily available from South Carolina.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/tools/reviews/a1140/4205480/
 
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You could be right. That said, I think there are some, particularly some neoconservatives, who are paranoid about China.

I am right.

People cry about China's economic rise, but they still buy their **** because it's cheap.
 
:lamo

Any rate, since you made a response this time, I will reciprocate. The problem with what you have said here is that you appear to think that businesses should be solely motivated by profit. This is a flawed notion. There are ethical concerns, environmental concerns, and humanitarian concerns that should be taken into consideration as well. Why? Because these are the characteristics of civilized human beings that distinguish them from animals in the jungle who only care about their next meal to the exclusion of all else. As a result of these types of considerations, certainly we can say that patriotism should be a factor when making such a decision to outsource jobs.

Well then good, I ask again is it unpatriotic to buy foreign made products?
 
And its all about seeking cheap goods to buy.

What are you referring to as cheap goods? Other human beings? Or do you mean a toy made in a horrid Chinese factory?
 
Hey, it's all about finding that cheap labor, paying cheap wages...

And when you empty out your house of foreign made goods, I'll bet you don't have much left.

Now I ask you, is it unpatriotic to buy foreign made goods?
 
I would say so. You live here, you do business here, our military will protect you form invasion, the police will protect your property, yet you cant keep jobs here?

The police will do what again?
 
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