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Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?


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We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?



Nossir. I wouldn't go so far as to call it treason.... but it damn sure isn't patriotic.
 
Is doing something that's harmful for the US economy unpatriotic?
 
It's neither patriotic nor un patriotic.

I'm torn on the issue becuase I have no problem buying foreign goods, on the other hand I prioritize buying goods in this order

1) US
2) Canada
3) South America
4) Asia

In that order, which means I mainly buy US and Canadian goods when there is a choice.

Sometimes there is not
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?

Building a successful company is a credit to the US. If outsourcing is what it takes then so be it. Most of the money will be coming to America and to American jobs in any case. Americans benefit from having access to inexpensive goods.
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?

the people who own those manufacturers dont care about what's "patriotic" it's all about the bottom line
 
the people who own those manufacturers dont care about what's "patriotic" it's all about the bottom line

And the bottom line is exactly what a CEO's focus should be. He has a duty to shareholders to maximize their investment. Economic success makes America great.
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?

As long as no U.S. laws are broken, who cares?
 
As long as no U.S. laws are broken, who cares?

The U.S. foreign policy establishment appears to think that the rise of China's power that is associated with the wealth that they have gained from such outsourcing is a problem.
 
It's business. Besides, very few people actually care about patriotism and just enjoy using it as political club to use against their opponents.
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?
Yes. It's patriotic for the rich to get richer.
 
Solving the employment problems that we have in this country involves eliminating the minimum wage, getting rid of mandated benefits, and ending manipulation of interest rates to encourage saving.
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?

I ask you the same question. Is it unpatriotic to buy foreign made products?
 
No, but that doesn't make it inherently harmful to the country. In many cases it's in fact a benefit to the US economy.
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?

Outsourcing and patriotism have exactly jack and **** to do with each other. One is about making proper business decisions, one is about love of country. Your question is like asking if liking sushi is unpatriotic...
 
I ask you the same question. Is it unpatriotic to buy foreign made products?

That would be a function of your knowledge about the way the products were manufactured, what is available for you to purchase, what you can afford, and the time you have to do the research. Depending on how all that shakes out, it may or it may not be.
 
Outsourcing and patriotism have exactly jack and **** to do with each other. One is about making proper business decisions, one is about love of country. Your question is like asking if liking sushi is unpatriotic...

As usual, quite a bit of smoke, but no fire.
 
We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?
The idea that anyone call shipping American jobs and manufacturing over seas to be patriotic is laughable.This is one of the things that pisses me off about the chamber of commerce republicans.THey will sit there and tell you that they love American and that communist are evil and suck dick. Then they turn around and support something so unAmerican as outsourcing jobs and increasing China's means of strengthening and updating their military.These are the capitalists who will knowingly sell the rope that will later be used to hang them with.
 
The idea that anyone call shipping American jobs and manufacturing over seas to be patriotic is laughable.This is one of the things that pisses me off about the chamber of commerce republicans.THey will sit there and tell you that they love American and that communist are evil and suck dick. Then they turn around and support something so unAmerican as outsourcing jobs and increasing China's means of strengthening and updating their military.These are the capitalists who will knowingly sell the rope that will later be used to hang them with.

Indeed. It boggles my mind to hear this talk about the need to thwart the rise of China, while at the same time we essentially gave them the money to facilitate that rise. Amazing!
 
That would be a function of your knowledge about the way the products were manufactured, what is available for you to purchase, what you can afford, and the time you have to do the research. Depending on how all that shakes out, it may or it may not be.

And a CEO could come with a similar list of points that go into the decision making process of whether to open a call center in Des Moines or Singapore.


It it neither patriotic or unpatriotic. It's business. And the management of a firm are legally and ethically responsible to use the assets of the owners of the firm wisely. If that means offshoring work then so be it.
 
And a CEO could come with a similar list of points that go into the decision making process of whether to open a call center in Des Moines or Singapore.

It might be similar but it would not be the same.

It it neither patriotic or unpatriotic. It's business. And the management of a firm are legally and ethically responsible to use the assets of the owners of the firm wisely. If that means offshoring work then so be it.

I would say it is unpatriotic if you unnecessarily ship U.S. jobs overseas. It might be that it time to put some high tariffs on imported goods.
 
As usual, quite a bit of smoke, but no fire.

Such a well thought out defense of your position...

A business is in the job of making money. That is their purpose. Businesses can, should, and do base decisions on that profit motive. It is entirely irrelevant to whether they love their country. You can love your country and still outsource if that is what is best for your business.

Now when you respond, how about you actually address my comments instead of just dismissing them. It is much harder to do, but do at least try.
 
Such a well thought out defense of your position...

A business is in the job of making money. That is their purpose. Businesses can, should, and do base decisions on that profit motive. It is entirely irrelevant to whether they love their country. You can love your country and still outsource if that is what is best for your business.

Now when you respond, how about you actually address my comments instead of just dismissing them. It is much harder to do, but do at least try.

:lamo

Any rate, since you made a response this time, I will reciprocate. The problem with what you have said here is that you appear to think that businesses should be solely motivated by profit. This is a flawed notion. There are ethical concerns, environmental concerns, and humanitarian concerns that should be taken into consideration as well. Why? Because these are the characteristics of civilized human beings that distinguish them from animals in the jungle who only care about their next meal to the exclusion of all else. As a result of these types of considerations, certainly we can say that patriotism should be a factor when making such a decision to outsource jobs.
 
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