Will you vote for Hillary as our next President? [W:302]

Ironfist · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

VanceMack said:
Feel free to illustrate the partisan support of anyone. On the other hand...Democrat supporters have declared their undying loyalty and their will to LITERALLY (not even making this up) vote for a steaming pile of **** as long as it has a D next to it. Literally.

You just made a partisan comment. Case closed.

Logicman · Apr 17, 2015

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jpn said:
It amazes me to see supposed "Christians" lining up with right-wing conservative Republicans. Because what was one of Jesus's most repeated and stressed lessons in The Gospels? That wealth is a barrier to heaven. And yet that central, core message has been banished from this "Christian" nation that treats its poor worse than any other developed nation.

It's not wealth that's the problem, jpn, it's the LOVE of money. And that's an issue in both parties, and with the Clintons as well, since they're wealthy.

jpn said:
Republicans scorn the poor and lavish all their attention and policy preferences on the rich and powerful. And then they dare to brandish their Bibles in our faces.

That's nonsense. Conservatives give more to charities than their left-wing counterparts. We just prefer not to do it through a bloated, corrupt, and inefficient government.

jpn said:
Jesus had real contempt for hypocrites. The definition of a hypocrite is one who pretends to follow in Jesus's path while making a mockery of what he taught.

I've got an article you need to read about the Democrat's UNBIBLICAL Redistribution of Wealth scheme:

"Although giving and charity are commanded by the Lord, nowhere in the Bible does it say that giving must first be filtered through a bloated and inefficient government bureaucracy. The Bible says that a man shall reap what he sows, but it doesn’t say we should live off of what other people sow. What’s more, Scripture teaches that if a man does not work, he shall not eat (2 Thessalonians 3:10). Scripture also commands us not to covet what belongs to our neighbor:

“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.” Exodus 20:17

Redistribution of Wealth is, at its core, a radical left wing economic scheme centered in greed and covetousness for other people’s money, rather than exercising personal responsibility and earning it one’s self."

Obama vs. the Bible – Redistribution of Wealth « The Righter Report

It is America’s men and women of wealth, imbued with religious and civic responsibility, who have served as the greatest patrons of the civic infrastructure, be it hospitals, libraries, museums, the arts, or the charitable United Way. England once had those patrons, but they went away as redistribution of wealth came in.

The primary theme of the Bible is individual responsibility, not entitlement and dependency.

VanceMack · Apr 17, 2015

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Ironfist said:
You just made a partisan comment. Case closed.

I am talking to a blind partisan. I suppose you could call that a 'partisan comment'. My initial comment was "You are who the parties THRIVE on."

Guess you wanted to ignore that, huh?

Look...I EXPECT people like you. We have an unfortunate number of you represented in both parties. but you are to be expected. many have already pledged their undying support for a steaming pile of **** with a D next it. Openly. HAPPILY.

Sadly.

Ironfist · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

VanceMack said:
I am talking to a blind partisan. I suppose you could call that a 'partisan comment'. My initial comment was "You are who the parties THRIVE on."

Guess you wanted to ignore that, huh?

Look...I EXPECT people like you. We have an unfortunate number of you represented in both parties. but you are to be expected. many have already pledged their undying support for a steaming pile of **** with a D next it. Openly. HAPPILY.

Sadly.

Don't get mad at me. You made a partisan comment about Democrats. To late. That case is closed.

Logicman · Apr 17, 2015

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Originally Posted by Logicman
You folks want to get into this more then I recommend you start a thread on it. This thread is about Hillary, who is an incompetent and corrupt, scandal-ridden liar.

jpn said:
M'kay. I guess that's why she was elected to be a US Senator. Twice.

She got elected largely on the coattails of her corrupt and misogynistic husband.

jpn said:
I guess that you think everyone's a stupid jerk except you, who possesses the hard-won knowledge you earned from listening to nothing but Rush Limbaugh and watching nothing but Fox "News." :roll:

Hey, if Hillary is the best you guys can come up with, then I feel very sorry for you, and America.

p.s. She got caught in another lie yesterday, trying to tell people all her grandparents were immigrants, when only one of the four were. The woman apparently can't tell the truth.

VanceMack · Apr 17, 2015

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Ironfist said:
Don't get mad at me. You made a partisan comment about Democrats. To late. That case is closed.

No...I made an honest comment about blind partisans. I also made an honest comment about certain self proclaimed democrats and their affinity for voting for steaming piles of **** with a D next to their names. Case closed

finebead · Apr 17, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
You mean like Harry Reid slandering Romney on the floor of the senate? Like Obama walking into office and declaring all Republicans "enemies"?

Or like our pal Reid again calling Republicans "terrorists". Personally I thought "jihadist" really captured the true spirit of respect for an opponent.

Or how about the laughing fit over a brown infant among the Romney's, playing "Mexican" music for senator Ted Cruz.

Another favorite has been "slut" hurled at Sarah Palin, "whore" was admirable as well as is the fact any given day we might see some moron creating a thread about her family.

When it comes to high moral ground on "undignified" the Democrats are looking up, way up.

What was the Reid slander of Romney? Obama didn't go to office calling the repubs enemies, he said he wanted to work with them. Obama attended an early repub congressional luncheon and was attacked by them, and he calmly answered their questions with facts, turned the meeting on them, he told them "guys, this is not a campaign stop, I actually have the facts", and they never invited him back. Then there was the Mitch McConnell line, our only job is to ensure Obama is a one term president, implicit in that is that was the goal even beyond doing what is right for the nation if it requires bipartisan support.

Your laughing fit did not come from the dem leadership, the way Boehner and McConnell have disrespectfully slammed Obama. Nobody in the dem leadership has called Palin a slut, nor mentioned her family issues. What happens far below the party leadership is gross and disrespectful, but it happens on both sides. But it is not and has not been pervasive on the dem leadership the way it has on the repub leadership.

Show me your plan that will work, and explain why it will work, and I may vote for you. Romney and McCain had their opportunity, and they failed.

Fearandloathing · Apr 17, 2015

finebead said:
What was the Reid slander of Romney? Obama didn't go to office calling the repubs enemies, he said he wanted to work with them. Obama attended an early repub congressional luncheon and was attacked by them, and he calmly answered their questions with facts, turned the meeting on them, he told them "guys, this is not a campaign stop, I actually have the facts", and they never invited him back. Then there was the Mitch McConnell line, our only job is to ensure Obama is a one term president, implicit in that is that was the goal even beyond doing what is right for the nation if it requires bipartisan support.

Your laughing fit did not come from the dem leadership, the way Boehner and McConnell have disrespectfully slammed Obama. Nobody in the dem leadership has called Palin a slut, nor mentioned her family issues. What happens far below the party leadership is gross and disrespectful, but it happens on both sides. But it is not and has not been pervasive on the dem leadership the way it has on the repub leadership.

Show me your plan that will work, and explain why it will work, and I may vote for you. Romney and McCain had their opportunity, and they failed.

Reid? You don't remember him standing up in the senate and declaring that Romney had not paid his taxes? Said he was a tax cheat! He could not be sued and knew it, as all senators are protected. He even gloated about the filthy and deliberate lie when announcing his long over due retirement.

You NOT knowing that tells me all I need to know...didn't read the rest of the "liberal' apoligetica

eohrnberger · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Logicman said:
This is how duplicitous and corrupt Hillary Clinton is. The Clintons always think they're above the law and above oversight.

She ignored the letter.

Congress first asked Hillary Clinton about personal email use in 2012, letter shows | Fox News

And she's the hope of the Democratic Party. Pathetic.

I thought there was such a thing as contempt of congress? I guess not for a Clinton, eh? Goes back to support the position that Hillary isn't going to answer any questions she doesn't want to answer, regardless. Yeah, this will sure lead to her being held accountable. (/sarcasm)

A great big step backwards on the important road to hold ALL elected officials accountable.

finebead · Apr 17, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
Reid? You don't remember him standing up in the senate and declaring that Romney had not paid his taxes? Said he was a tax cheat! He could not be sued and knew it, as all senators are protected. He even gloated about the filthy and deliberate lie when announcing his long over due retirement.

You NOT knowing that tells me all I need to know...didn't read the rest of the "liberal' apoligetica

I did not recall, but now I remember. The difference between you and me is that as an independent, I can say, Harry Reid was wrong and his statement was shameful. You are apparently not objective and therefore unwilling to say that anything your beloved repubs say is shameful.

What is important about it, is that they have failed to capture the white house very much since 1992, and it is their mean spiritedness that has put off americans, along with THEIR failure to deliver. They criticize the dems more than they talk up their own plan. If they want to win an election, they need to change their approach. Stop the hyper criticality and show us why they should have another chance after the debacle of the Bush 43 presidency, unnecessary war in Iraq, $50 billion a year Medicare Part D bill with no plan to pay for it, and a financial crisis in the US in the eighth year of Bush's admin. Just criticizing the dems is not going to make me believe in them again.

AlbqOwl · Apr 17, 2015

jet57 said:
Oh nonsense. Ronald Reagan was 69. It's a good thing that Hillary doesn't "Koochi - Koo" because - who'd believe it?

I think she's got balls and I'd like to see what she does. Of course it'll be a big win for the girls, but what else is new?

You know what? I didn't want Obama as President for many reasons, one of which I saw him as a BLACK man who was unqualified, incompetent, and untrustworthy. I wanted our historic first black President to end institutional racism once and for all by excelling in the job. Well Obama didn't and racial tensions are worse than ever even as he reinforced the utter nonsense that black people just aren't quite up to the job or the even more utter nonsense that he wasn't allowed to succeed because he is black.

Now I don't want Hillary as President for many reasons, one of which I see her as not having a single noteworthy accomplishment she can claim in any job throughout her entire adult life. And I see her as unqualified and untrustworthy. I have no reason to believe that she is qualified or competent to be President of the United States. I want our first historic woman President to excel at the job and end institutional sexism forever. I fear Hillary, like Obama before her, will reinforce the utter nonsense that women just aren't quite up to the job and institutional sexism will be worse than ever as well as the greater nonsense that she wasn't allowed to succeed because she was a woman.

Fearandloathing · Apr 17, 2015

AlbqOwl said:
You know what? I didn't want Obama as President for many reasons, one of which I saw him as a BLACK man who was unqualified, incompetent, and untrustworthy. I wanted our historic first black President to end institutional racism once and for all by excelling in the job. Well Obama didn't and racial tensions are worse than ever even as he reinforced the utter nonsense that black people just aren't quite up to the job or the even more utter nonsense that he wasn't allowed to succeed because he is black.

Now I don't want Hillary as President for many reasons, one of which I see her as not having a single noteworthy accomplishment she can claim in any job throughout her entire adult life. And I see her as unqualified and untrustworthy. I have no reason to believe that she is qualified or competent to be President of the United States. I want our first historic woman President to excel at the job and end institutional sexism forever. I fear Hillary, like Obama before her, will reinforce the utter nonsense that women just aren't quite up to the job and institutional sexism will be worse than ever as well as the greater nonsense that she wasn't allowed to succeed because she was a woman.

Time will tell, but Obama and the way he has been a "black president" may likely have set back the possibility of a second black president several decades

Fiddytree · Apr 17, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
Time will tell, but Obama and the way he has been a "black president" may likely have set back the possibility of a second black president several decades

Who exactly would refuse to vote for a black President again?

AlbqOwl · Apr 17, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
Time will tell, but Obama and the way he has been a "black president" may likely have set back the possibility of a second black president several decades

Maybe. Certainly the conservatives and right leaning moderates won't likely fall for another scam such as Obama turned out to be. I hope they have their wits about them re Hillary.

But I do think there are some amazing conservative voices by people who happen to be black. If we can just find a way to let those voices be heard and minimize the Democrats and their surrogate media efforts to demonize them for straying off the reservation so to speak, I do believe conservatives would vote for a true conservative and be happy that he or she happened to be black.

jet57 · Apr 17, 2015

AlbqOwl said:
Maybe. Certainly the conservatives and right leaning moderates won't likely fall for another scam such as Obama turned out to be. I hope they have their wits about them re Hillary.

But I do think there are some amazing conservative voices by people who happen to be black. If we can just find a way to let those voices be heard and minimize the Democrats and their surrogate media efforts to demonize them for straying off the reservation so to speak, I do believe conservatives would vote for a true conservative and be happy that he or she happened to be black.

You know, most every president we've ever had has turned out to be a scam for one side or the other. A successful president's term can only be based on - what the major issues are and what that president has been able to do to reach a positive outcome and who benefits from it.

Fearandloathing · Apr 17, 2015

AlbqOwl said:
Maybe. Certainly the conservatives and right leaning moderates won't likely fall for another scam such as Obama turned out to be. I hope they have their wits about them re Hillary.

But I do think there are some amazing conservative voices by people who happen to be black. If we can just find a way to let those voices be heard and minimize the Democrats and their surrogate media efforts to demonize them for straying off the reservation so to speak, I do believe conservatives would vote for a true conservative and be happy that he or she happened to be black.

Heard a sermon from a black conservative preacher. It was indeed the sanest voice I have heard on race relations, fiscal management and without mentioning Obama's name made it clear Obama has failed on every front. he said words to the effect a "leadership void" had been created, that that "void" could not be filled by a leader who was black first and a leader second.

That's a voice needs be heard. However, after Herman Cain can an black conservative be blamed for remaining out of the "limelight"

LetsGoBrandon · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Ironfist said:
I can certainly appreciate your disdain of Hillary. But she isn't on the same level of ridiculous as Palin, in my opinion.

No....she is much worse. At least Palin did not invent stories about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia.

Fearandloathing · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

ObamacareFail said:
No....she is much worse. At least Palin did not invent stories about dodging sniper fire in Bosnia.

Was thinking about that this morning. And you are right, on top of that she was caught and let hubby try to pick up the pieces by saying she was tired and dehydrated.

right, we saw how dehydrated she was

JayDubya · Apr 17, 2015

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The only reason any rational person could vote for Hillary Clinton for president given her character and public record is if one took her Benghazi hearing statement as her campaign slogan and agreed, conceding that the nation were already doomed:

Hillary 2016: At This Point, What Difference Does It Make?

Black Dog · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

No. Her views and mine are pretty far apart.

jpn · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

VanceMack said:
Why thats just horse****, son. You know precisely dick about Hillary's policy...and already you are a proud steaming pile of **** voter. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Which policy choices do you disagree with? (I notice that the more emphatic a poster is, the less they tend to want to talk about actual policies).

jpn · Apr 17, 2015

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Lovebug said:
I wouldn't vote for her even if the GOP would run Palin. That's how much I dislike Hillary. Her dishonesty, lack of transparency, two faced over entitled grandstanding makes me want to puke. I really fear for this country, should she end up being the nominee.

And the fact that she believes NASA rather than Rush Limbaugh when it comes to global warming is completely irrelevant, right?

The problem with democracy is that voters are so often vacuous tools of the rich and powerful.

jpn · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

VanceMack said:
Thats just a foolish blind partisan comment. You are who the parties THRIVE on.

On the contrary, he places his emphasis on policies, not political parties. Are you really so naïve as to believe there isn't a clear and obvious choice between the two parties?

jpn · Apr 17, 2015

Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

VanceMack said:
Feel free to illustrate the partisan support of anyone. On the other hand...Democrat supporters have declared their undying loyalty and their will to LITERALLY (not even making this up) vote for a steaming pile of **** as long as it has a D next to it. Literally.

You keep neglecting to include the "why" part of that post you keep referring to (which was mine).

I wonder why?

jpn · Apr 17, 2015

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Logicman said:
It's not wealth that's the problem, jpn, it's the LOVE of money. And that's an issue in both parties, and with the Clintons as well, since they're wealthy.

I see. Jesus just lacked a decent editor. Like you. Got it. :roll:

Logicman said:
That's nonsense. Conservatives give more to charities than their left-wing counterparts. We just prefer not to do it through a bloated, corrupt, and inefficient government.

So you must believe that since we enjoy all that conservative largess, we have no need for Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare.

Wow. The alternate conservative reality just gets stranger and stranger...

Logicman said:
The primary theme of the Bible is individual responsibility, not entitlement and dependency.

You obviously haven't read The Gospels recently.

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