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Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 86.1%

  • No

    Votes: 4 11.1%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 1 2.8%
  • Total voters
    36
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Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?


Has Cuba suffered enough?

Sorry forgot the poll (I assumed it would come up on it's own in this category - nope)...please either delete mods or add the 3 options 1) Yes 2) No 3) Unsure

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DA60 said:
Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?


Has Cuba suffered enough?

Sorry forgot the poll (I assumed it would come up on it's own in this category - nope)...please either delete mods or add the 3 options 1) Yes 2) No 3) Unsure

Thank you.
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Saudi Arabia, who has funds Salafi terrorism isn't there...
Countries who given foreign aid to Uganda so it can legally oppress homosexuals isn't there...
China who hacks us isn't there...
Russia who spies on us isn't there...

Why should Cuba be? The reasons to keep this country on what is basically an ignore list are getting thinner. However, Miami's Cuban voters must be appeased.
 
I think we did more to cause violence in Cuba than Cuba has done here.

Edit - This is also true of Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, North Korea, etc.
 
We ought to remove Iran and Sudan from the terror list as well.
 
DA60 said:
Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?


Has Cuba suffered enough?

Sorry forgot the poll (I assumed it would come up on it's own in this category - nope)...please either delete mods or add the 3 options 1) Yes 2) No 3) Unsure

Thank you.
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I do not really know, if they are still making a terrorist nuisance of themselves any more. It is still the same dynasty that did so and stole American assets though.
 
Hatuey said:
Saudi Arabia, who has funds Salafi terrorism isn't there...
Countries who given foreign aid to Uganda so it can legally oppress homosexuals isn't there...
China who hacks us isn't there...
Russia who spies on us isn't there...

Why should Cuba be? The reasons to keep this country on what is basically an ignore list are getting thinner. However, Miami's Cuban voters must be appeased.
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Well, there was a good reason for Cuba to be on the terrorist list for a while. But your examples do not really fit with the exception of possibly Saudi Arabia, where I am not sure, if the activities you mean are actually both financed by the government and terrorist.
 
Cuba should have been removed from that "list" decades ago.

Also, it's far past time for the USofA to stop acting like idiots and end the embargo crap with Cuba. Open ALL trade and travel.

Generally, how the USofA has conducted itself regarding Cuba over the last few decades has been embarrassingly childish.
 
DA60 said:
Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?


Has Cuba suffered enough?

Sorry forgot the poll (I assumed it would come up on it's own in this category - nope)...please either delete mods or add the 3 options 1) Yes 2) No 3) Unsure

Thank you.
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Have they funded or supported or committed terrorism in the recent past(say 25 years)? I honestly do not know, but that would I think be what should determine the answer. If a country has done those things, then yes, they belong on the list, if not, then no.
 
DA60 said:
Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?


Has Cuba suffered enough?

Sorry forgot the poll (I assumed it would come up on it's own in this category - nope)...please either delete mods or add the 3 options 1) Yes 2) No 3) Unsure

Thank you.
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As long as they are sponsoring terrorism or providing a safe haven for terrorist the answer is no.

Cuba still provides sanctuary for wanted terrorists

The most difficult obstacle to overcome is the sanctuary Cuba continues to offer those deemed terrorists by the U.S. government.

They include members of a violent Spanish separatist movement, the Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA), which the State Department estimates has killed more than 800 people since the 1960s.

Cuba has also provided safe haven to members of the Colombian guerrilla army known as the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, which has been waging a civil war with the Colombian government since the 1960s.

In addition, Cuba is providing refuge for dozens of U.S. fugitives, including one of the FBI's most wanted terrorists — Joanne Chesimard, a member of the Black Liberation Army. She shot and killed a New Jersey State Police trooper execution-style in 1973. She received a life sentence but escaped prison and made her way to Cuba.

"It is essential to recognize that the Castro regime has a long track record of providing sanctuary to terrorists and harboring U.S. fugitives who have murdered American citizens, while undermining national security," Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., wrote in a Feb. 26 letter to Secretary of State John Kerry. "Before Cuba is removed from (the list), the Castro regime must be held to account for these acts and American fugitives must be brought back to face justice in the U.S."
 
DA60 said:
Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?


Has Cuba suffered enough?

Sorry forgot the poll (I assumed it would come up on it's own in this category - nope)...please either delete mods or add the 3 options 1) Yes 2) No 3) Unsure

Thank you.
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No, and haven't thought so for a long time. Can't wait to take a direct flight to Havana.
 
jamesrage said:
As long as they are sponsoring terrorism or providing a safe haven for terrorist the answer is no.

Cuba still provides sanctuary for wanted terrorists

The most difficult obstacle to overcome is the sanctuary Cuba continues to offer those deemed terrorists by the U.S. government.

They include members of a violent Spanish separatist movement, the Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA), which the State Department estimates has killed more than 800 people since the 1960s.

Cuba has also provided safe haven to members of the Colombian guerrilla army known as the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, which has been waging a civil war with the Colombian government since the 1960s.

In addition, Cuba is providing refuge for dozens of U.S. fugitives, including one of the FBI's most wanted terrorists — Joanne Chesimard, a member of the Black Liberation Army. She shot and killed a New Jersey State Police trooper execution-style in 1973. She received a life sentence but escaped prison and made her way to Cuba.

"It is essential to recognize that the Castro regime has a long track record of providing sanctuary to terrorists and harboring U.S. fugitives who have murdered American citizens, while undermining national security," Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., wrote in a Feb. 26 letter to Secretary of State John Kerry. "Before Cuba is removed from (the list), the Castro regime must be held to account for these acts and American fugitives must be brought back to face justice in the U.S."
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I'm not worried about it. The fly in the ointment is your comment "those deemed terrorists by the US" that's so often just political. Today's "terrorist" is tomorrow's CIA asset and vise versa.
 
Redress said:
Have they funded or supported or committed terrorism in the recent past(say 25 years)? I honestly do not know, but that would I think be what should determine the answer. If a country has done those things, then yes, they belong on the list, if not, then no.
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It depends, our government is not above creating strawmen. Cuba is a very political situation. USFP with regards to Cuba could help make that island country shine.
 
Montecresto said:
I'm not worried about it. The fly in the ointment is your comment "those deemed terrorists by the US" that's so often just political. Today's "terrorist" is tomorrow's CIA asset and vise versa.
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So the terrorists described in the article are not terrorists? They are just wonderful misunderstood people whose policies the US does not like?
 
jamesrage said:
So the terrorists described in the article are not terrorists? They are just wonderful misunderstood people whose policies the US does not like?
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I'm saying that many countries, including the US, use terrorism, and they're not all on terrorist lists.
 
Montecresto said:
I'm saying that many countries, including the US, use terrorism, and they're not all on terrorist lists.
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No you were not.You were basically stating that those people were falsely accused of being terrorists by the US with your statement "those deemed terrorists by the US" as some sort of justification for removing Cuba off the terrorist list.
 
jamesrage said:
No you were not.You were basically stating that those people were falsely accused of being terrorists by the US with your statement "those deemed terrorists by the US" as some sort of justification for removing Cuba off the terrorist list.
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Again, I was quoting you. Just because the US "deems" somebody a terrorist, or a nation, a sponsor of terrorists, doesn't make it so. And that finger pointing has three back at us.
 
I think full diplomatic recognition is going to happen quickly, as it should
 
It seems that Cuba is harboring an American cop killer who should be returned to New Jersey to stand trial. Cuba also harbors Spanish separatist/terrorists and affords them citizenship, individuals who have murdered innocent Spaniards over the years. As well as Columbian terrorists/FARC

Cuba was involved in terrorist activities in Africa and South America previously, however, it appears those activities have ceased.

There is a lot to dislike about Cuba, it's current regime, it's treatment of its own people, and it's involvement with some rogue nations of the world, but they do not appear to be on the level of Iran.

Cuba, however, should be made to seek entry into the league of responsible, contributing world states through actions on their part, even simple goodwill gestures, for they really offer nothing to the world and would benefit greatly from US sanctions being lifted and normalization with America.
 
Do they still sponsor terrorism? If yes, then no. Are they still a Marxist-Lenonist-Stalinist socialist/communist dictatorship? Then no.
 
DA60 said:
Should Cuba be removed from America's Terrorist List?


Has Cuba suffered enough?

Sorry forgot the poll (I assumed it would come up on it's own in this category - nope)...please either delete mods or add the 3 options 1) Yes 2) No 3) Unsure

Thank you.
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Why'd you make the poll anonymous?
 
I do think the US should remove Cuba from their list, but I'd strongly dissuade Cuba from removing the US from its list of countries supporting terrorism.
 
CanadaJohn said:
It seems that Cuba is harboring an American cop killer who should be returned to New Jersey to stand trial. Cuba also harbors Spanish separatist/terrorists and affords them citizenship, individuals who have murdered innocent Spaniards over the years. As well as Columbian terrorists/FARC

Cuba was involved in terrorist activities in Africa and South America previously, however, it appears those activities have ceased.

There is a lot to dislike about Cuba, it's current regime, it's treatment of its own people, and it's involvement with some rogue nations of the world, but they do not appear to be on the level of Iran.

Cuba, however, should be made to seek entry into the league of responsible, contributing world states through actions on their part, even simple goodwill gestures, for they really offer nothing to the world and would benefit greatly from US sanctions being lifted and normalization with America.
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And the US has among others... Luis Posada Carriles...
 
Montecresto said:
Again, I was quoting you. Just because the US "deems" somebody a terrorist, or a nation, a sponsor of terrorists, doesn't make it so. And that finger pointing has three back at us.
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You went to the we do it too argument indicating that the people in the article were terrorists.
 
jamesrage said:
You went to the we do it too argument indicating that the people in the article were terrorists.
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But we don't know if they are is the point.
 
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