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Do our policemen need mental examination?

Do they need mental examination?

  • Do it!

    Votes: 22 95.7%
  • Nope, they do their job perfectly.

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • Total voters
    23

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What happens to cops? It's not a suspicion, it's obvious that they are as violent as vultures. Does their jobs drive them so violent? Or maybe those cops who commit crimes were mentally ill before they applied for their jobs? I have no doubt that someone would name some other reasons of cops violence. I think it would be useful to examinate all the cops that are in charge now to cleanse our police in the name of our security. Do you agree?
 
What happens to cops? It's not a suspicion, it's obvious that they are as violent as vultures. Does their jobs drive them so violent? Or maybe those cops who commit crimes were mentally ill before they applied for their jobs? I have no doubt that someone would name some other reasons of cops violence. I think it would be useful to examinate all the cops that are in charge now to cleanse our police in the name of our security. Do you agree?

They should have to pass a Psyche eval.. same as airline pilots and anyone else who's job puts them in a position where mental issues can cause public harm.
 
I have seen a few over the years that form the attitude that there are only 2 kinds of people on the streets, cops and perps.
We could require mental exams for criminals, but all that would accomplish is a low unemployment rate for mental health professionals.
Most mental health issues are not curable, only treatable at best....
 
A lot of space between "do it" and "they do their job perfectly"!!!!
 
What happens to cops? It's not a suspicion, it's obvious that they are as violent as vultures. Does their jobs drive them so violent? Or maybe those cops who commit crimes were mentally ill before they applied for their jobs? I have no doubt that someone would name some other reasons of cops violence. I think it would be useful to examinate all the cops that are in charge now to cleanse our police in the name of our security. Do you agree?

Sure. Sounds easy. And are you paying for it?
 
What happens to cops? It's not a suspicion, it's obvious that they are as violent as vultures. Does their jobs drive them so violent? Or maybe those cops who commit crimes were mentally ill before they applied for their jobs? I have no doubt that someone would name some other reasons of cops violence. I think it would be useful to examinate all the cops that are in charge now to cleanse our police in the name of our security. Do you agree?

You will have to support that with more than an anti-cop imagination. And BTW, vultures feed on dead ****, they are the least violent of meat eating birds, they will not even defend territory.

So the very premise appears to be based on an erroneous bias.

However, you don't realize that police, in a reasoned society, are tested physically and emotionally once a year as per the nature of the job of being exposed to assholes, blood, dirty politicians and dirt bag ignorant cop haters.

Further, based on numbers, the most violent public servant in the United States is the president, who orders death on a daily basis. Do yopu want him to undergo a psychiatric evaluation every so often?

Perhaps if you had some accuracy about what cops do - 95% never draw their weapon in the field - there might be reason for debate, like what is the effect of bull**** attacks on a profession like this on the individual officer's ability to perform? What are the effects of a president who consistently weighs in against law enforcement and sides with the suspects in averring some innocence.

Yeah, they need to be followed by medical professionals, as they are under assault from the same left that issues death threats over ****ing pizza!
 
It is a dangerous and demanding job so a monthly visit to a psychologist may not be a bad thing, and every person who you give a gun as an employer needs to have a mental/psychological investigation/assessment, that is a must and should be done prior to even hiring that person as a trainee cop.
 
There are many places that do make law enforcement officers at the very least go through preemployment mental health evaluations.

Psychological Screening for Police Officers

And many of at least the major city LE agencies have guidelines for psych evaluations while working as a LEO.

Police Psychology

There is so much more information needed though for this question. What sort of evaluation? When? On a specific timeline from employment? After certain, specific incidents? When a concern is raised about a specific officer? All of the above? Honestly, I don't have any issue with any of these things, provided the "specific timeline" one, is reasonable and would have to take into account budget. Also, they shouldn't be done just because some people may feel that "police" as a group have an issue.
 
What happens to cops? It's not a suspicion, it's obvious that they are as violent as vultures. Does their jobs drive them so violent? Or maybe those cops who commit crimes were mentally ill before they applied for their jobs? I have no doubt that someone would name some other reasons of cops violence. I think it would be useful to examinate all the cops that are in charge now to cleanse our police in the name of our security. Do you agree?

I would say that training in conflict management and dangerous situations is called for.

More important and certainly more effective would be a reliable system of punishment for misbehavior. How after all the problems we seem to have, can policemen be without head cameras?
 
I dunno about local cops, but it's tough to become a state cop here. The state budget for anything is nonexistant, they have to pay for their own training, and yeah they do have psych eval.

I figure that, while most probably do sign up to use their weapons, it's similar to middle school teachers. They may have the best intentions at first, serving the public and all that, but they become jaded thru working with and against scumbags all day. The amount of power they're given virtually guarantees they'll fall into corruption. I think to guard against this, there should be mandatory time off and say a 5 year limit on the street, and absolutely any laws against filming cops should be abolished.
 
There are many places that do make law enforcement officers at the very least go through preemployment mental health evaluations.

Psychological Screening for Police Officers

And many of at least the major city LE agencies have guidelines for psych evaluations while working as a LEO.

Police Psychology

There is so much more information needed though for this question. What sort of evaluation? When? On a specific timeline from employment? After certain, specific incidents? When a concern is raised about a specific officer? All of the above? Honestly, I don't have any issue with any of these things, provided the "specific timeline" one, is reasonable and would have to take into account budget. Also, they shouldn't be done just because some people may feel that "police" as a group have an issue.

Honestly when you look at the systemic racial profiling and amount of totally unnecessary violence in some departments, a psych eval should be the least of their worries. They should be held to the same standards as everyone else, and face the grand jury, not just internal investigation, when they use excessive force or harass minorities.

Fewer attempts to make law enforcement immune from lawsuits, or to ban filming cops, are also much needed to ensure they 'protect and serve'
 
Honestly when you look at the systemic racial profiling and amount of totally unnecessary violence in some departments, a psych eval should be the least of their worries. They should be held to the same standards as everyone else, and face the grand jury, not just internal investigation, when they use excessive force or harass minorities.

Fewer attempts to make law enforcement immune from lawsuits, or to ban filming cops, are also much needed to ensure they 'protect and serve'

Many times we find that claims of harassment against police are bull. And they happen so often that if all of them had to go before a Grand Jury, it would be expensive as hell and absolutely nothing else would get done.
 
Many times we find that claims of harassment against police are bull. And they happen so often that if all of them had to go before a Grand Jury, it would be expensive as hell and absolutely nothing else would get done.

They don't have to all go there. Many false accusations can easily be weeded out. But if you can keep politics out of it, I can tell you that having sat for 18 months on a FGJ, frivolous charges aren't brought, of over a hundred cases that we heard, there wasn't a single no bill, though I voted against two that I thought didn't reach the very low bar set for a GJ. Police departments across America need some serious retooling. Do you realise that cops get hired at one police department that another police department rejected for legal or psychological reasons. A man with a history of trouble paying his child support as his only crime is dead because of a pos that tried to cover his crime. Conservatives don't care how big the price tag is for the next war we're going to fight, but spend money on cleaning the filth out of LE, oh hell no, it's too expensive.
 
What good will it do?

It's not like someone could simply lie, right? Not to mention that unless you go with fully qualified/trained psychiatrist using imaging and blood tests for psychoactive/brain chemicals, your dealing with part of the medical system that is no more advanced or based in science than shamanism or witchdoctors.
 
With the kind of job that law enforcement is, I have no problem of requiring a mental evaluation during the hiring process and required yearly rechecks.
 
What happens to cops? It's not a suspicion, it's obvious that they are as violent as vultures. Does their jobs drive them so violent? Or maybe those cops who commit crimes were mentally ill before they applied for their jobs? I have no doubt that someone would name some other reasons of cops violence. I think it would be useful to examinate all the cops that are in charge now to cleanse our police in the name of our security. Do you agree?
I don't think mental issues are the reason. Mental issues are, at most, marginal.

I think internal police culture is the primary issue. The notion, fostered and accepted and even marketed, that violence is not only ok and justified, but necessary. There even seems to be something of a macho image that says (to other cops) if you don't follow along you're not a real/good cop. A form of peer pressure, if you will.
 
What happens to cops? It's not a suspicion, it's obvious that they are as violent as vultures. Does their jobs drive them so violent? Or maybe those cops who commit crimes were mentally ill before they applied for their jobs? I have no doubt that someone would name some other reasons of cops violence. I think it would be useful to examinate all the cops that are in charge now to cleanse our police in the name of our security. Do you agree?

I would think this is already a thing. Other professions have psych evals all the time, I would have to think that police are amongst those professions.
 
That's the way you scored 33000 posts, well done!
I started this thread. Do you have an argument?

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And damn, dat avatar...
 
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