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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's either a boy, or a girl. Anything else is a lie.
    Who cares which one a person is? Why does it really matter?
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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    People keep bringing up DNA as the thing that determines a person's sex/gender, as if people truly use actual DNA in determining how they treat people, what sex/gender they view people as. This is simply not reality. Most people simply assume that a person's DNA matches their visible gender, those cues that they use to match gender with sex.
    Fair enough... although that is not my argument. That also goes back to our debate about trans in female locker rooms.

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who cares which one a person is? Why does it really matter?
    I didn't even know a person named Bruce Jenner even existed until this all got tossed up in my face a couple weeks ago. Don't ask me why it matters, ask the publishers. Don't like my opinion, don't bring it up.

    The Army is getting ready for a ground war with Russia within the next 3 years and you people are worried about some dude wearing a dress having access to a bathroom of their choice.
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-15-15 at 08:19 PM.

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who cares which one a person is? Why does it really matter?
    It only matters as to the truth. I mean, you could say who cares to tons of things. Who cares how far the moon is away? Nothing we can do either way but if somebody says that it is 3,000,000 miles away when it is really only about 250,000 miles away then there is nothing wrong in pointing out the facts, right? Most here, as far as I can tell, could care less if he wants to be a she or thinks he is a she... they are simply argue that he IS NOT a she. The moon IS NOT 3,000,000 miles away... it is about 250,000 miles away. The sun IS NOT a billion degrees... it is something like 5 million degrees F on the surface. IF somebody wants to say that they think that green trees are really blue, who cares? Pointing out that the tree is really green is just acknowledging the truth.

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    Yeah sure. Also a man have a right to know if that person use to be a man. Ijs

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I didn't even know a person named Bruce Jenner even existed until this all got tossed up in my face a couple weeks ago. Don't ask me why it matters, ask the publishers. Don't like my opinion, don't bring it up.

    The Army is getting ready for a ground war with Russia within the next 3 years and you people are worried about some dude wearing a dress having access to a bathroom of their choice.
    I didn't know the person either, nor do I care about that particular person.

    There are a lot of other things going on in the world besides Russia as well. To drop all other issues besides that one would be just as ridiculous as concentrating mainly on making it at the very least not against the law for a person to use the restroom they wish to use. Any concerns about safety are already covered by other laws pertaining to purposely trying to see someone naked, sexual harassment, and/or sexual assault, which would apply to both men and women.
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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Fair enough... although that is not my argument. That also goes back to our debate about trans in female locker rooms.
    First, you responded to my post by Jerry.

    Second, you brought up having a penis, as if that was truly used by people to determine sex when first meeting them. It actually isn't used that much more often (relatively speaking) than DNA. Most people go off of other, less personal looks to determine sex/gender, not their private parts.
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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I didn't know the person either, nor do I care about that particular person.

    There are a lot of other things going on in the world besides Russia as well. To drop all other issues besides that one would be just as ridiculous as concentrating mainly on making it at the very least not against the law for a person to use the restroom they wish to use. Any concerns about safety are already covered by other laws pertaining to purposely trying to see someone naked, sexual harassment, and/or sexual assault, which would apply to both men and women.
    Yeah, China is openly violating international watters by building "the great wall of sand", but hey, let's talk about 2 dudes who want to marry instead.

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yeah, China is openly violating international watters by building "the great wall of sand", but hey, let's talk about 2 dudes who want to marry instead.
    You are free to not discuss any issue you wish and merely concentrate on China and/or Russia. The rest of us though are going to discuss other things. You are still free to join us.
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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You are free to not discuss any issue you wish and merely concentrate on China and/or Russia. The rest of us though are going to discuss other things. You are still free to join us.
    Hey, you asked.

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