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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by zom View Post
    Yes, because calling someone who is a girl "she" with quotation marks is a sign of respect.
    The person in question is not a girl. That's the point. He is a eunuch—a castrated man. He still has the bone structure, muscle structure, and strength of a man. And by pretending to be female, he getd to beat up women.
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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    The person in question is not a girl. That's the point. He is a eunuch—a castrated man. He still has the bone structure, muscle structure, and strength of a man. And by pretending to be female, he getd to beat up women.
    All of your posts about transgenderism, including this one, hinge on the disingenuous assertion that gender is inherently sex, which is largely false, and even if you were to criticize the sizable evidence base, you'd still likely conclude that it's "more than likely" false if you were to evaluate it honestly.

    With little doubt that this is false in all factual regards, there is no excuse to blatantly disregard someone's feelings and disrespect them on the basis that you have a hunch which goes against the evidence that, quite frankly, dismantles your worldview.

    In short, you, day by day, discredit evidence and professional consensus and replace these with suppositions and your own singular personal opinion so as to avoid the various conflicts within your line of reasoning.

    A eunuch is a man whose genitals have been removed. This woman, however, is not a man, by the most updated, accurate, professionally described version of the definition. Will you acknowledge this? Of course not. And to add you'll act like this one (largely unimportant) instance where we don't exactly know how the issue should be dealt with is some testament against the very principal of accepting the aforementioned facts.

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by zom View Post
    All of your posts about transgenderism, including this one, hinge on the disingenuous assertion that gender is inherently sex, which is largely false, and even if you were to criticize the sizable evidence base, you'd still likely conclude that it's "more than likely" false if you were to evaluate it honestly.

    With little doubt that this is false in all factual regards, there is no excuse to blatantly disregard someone's feelings and disrespect them on the basis that you have a hunch which goes against the evidence that, quite frankly, dismantles your worldview.

    In short, you, day by day, discredit evidence and professional consensus and replace these with suppositions and your own singular personal opinion so as to avoid the various conflicts within your line of reasoning.

    A eunuch is a man whose genitals have been removed. This woman, however, is not a man, by the most updated, accurate, professionally described version of the definition. Will you acknowledge this? Of course not. And to add you'll act like this one (largely unimportant) instance where we don't exactly know how the issue should be dealt with is some testament against the very principal of accepting the aforementioned facts.
    I would like to see this updated, accurate and professional(lol) described version of the definition. Then maybe you can tell me why I should respect the definition that completely ignores biological fact.

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by zom View Post
    All of your posts about transgenderism, including this one, hinge on the disingenuous assertion that gender is inherently sex, which is largely false, and even if you were to criticize the sizable evidence base, you'd still likely conclude that it's "more than likely" false if you were to evaluate it honestly.
    Even most five-year-olds understand the difference between boys and girls. It's obvious.

    That you cannot understand what every five-year-old easily can is your problem, not that of those who do understand it.

    To claim that a castrated and mutilated man is female is just insane.
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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Even most five-year-olds understand the difference between boys and girls. It's obvious.

    That you cannot understand what every five-year-old easily can is your problem, not that of those who do understand it.

    To claim that a castrated and mutilated man is female is just insane.
    I would call it ****ing ignorant. There comes a time when this liberal "acceptance" crap becomes flat out retarded and calling a castrated man a woman is most definitely retarded.

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Even most five-year-olds understand the difference between boys and girls. It's obvious.

    That you cannot understand what every five-year-old easily can is your problem, not that of those who do understand it.

    To claim that a castrated and mutilated man is female is just insane.
    Conventionally, yes they can. In accordance with reality, however, almost everything you think you know is extremely nuanced in actuality. Generally, 5-year-olds don't get taught the nuances, and that's because they largely would not understand them.

    As I predicted, you ignored the fact that you ignore facts. Ignorance seems to be a comfort zone for debaters of your style.

    "That's ridiculous...

    ...because I've always understood it to be this way...

    ...because most of everyone has always understood it to be this way...

    ...because this makes everything so much less simple...

    ...because it seems like common sense otherwise..."

    These are all logical fallacies, Henrin and Bob. Let's instead look at the research, the professional consensus, and be empathetic humans while doing so. I don't know why those things - especially in tandem - seem to be met with such resistance from the right.

    And everyone knows basic biology. No one has any qualms with it nor are they disputing it. They are disputing the staunch philosophy of some who interpret the accepted biological facts in a manner that is rigid and illogical.

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I would call it ****ing ignorant. There comes a time when this liberal "acceptance" crap becomes flat out retarded and calling a castrated man a woman is most definitely retarded.
    It's something far beyond merely “****ing ignorant”. Ignorance is just a lack of knowledge. To solidly accept as true, something that is so obviously and absurdly untrue, in the face of overwhelming proof that it is untrue, is something else entirely. It is difficult for me to imagine any other explanation but that the person who clings so desperately to such a claim is delusionally insane. It's like staring at the Sun, and denying that it exists, even as it burns one's retinas away.
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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    It's something far beyond merely “****ing ignorant”. Ignorance is just a lack of knowledge. To solidly accept as true, something that is so obviously and absurdly untrue, in the face of overwhelming proof that it is untrue, is something else entirely. It is difficult for me to imagine any other explanation but that the person who clings so desperately to such a claim is delusionally insane. It's like staring at the Sun, and denying that it exists, even as it burns one's retinas away.
    You seem to throw around "delusional" a lot. So, so many people are just plain delusional I take it. Everyone but you, probably.

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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by zom View Post
    Conventionally, yes they can. In accordance with reality, however, almost everything you think you know is extremely nuanced in actuality. Generally, 5-year-olds don't get taught the nuances, and that's because they largely would not understand them.
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    And everyone knows basic biology. No one has any qualms with it nor are they disputing it. They are disputing the staunch philosophy of some who interpret the accepted biological facts in a manner that is rigid and illogical.
    The biological facts are rigid, and it is those who argue against them who are being illogical. Black is black, white is white, male is male, and female is female. That's how it is. This isn't any “staunch philosophy of some who interpret the accepted biological facts”; these are the very facts themselves against which you are arguing. You are arguing against what is clearly, obviously, objectively, the hard, absolute truth. Yours is a “staunch philosophy” that is based in it's entirety on denying obvious truth, and trying to replace it with madness and lies.
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    re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?[W:165,1392]

    Quote Originally Posted by zom View Post
    You seem to throw around "delusional" a lot. So, so many people are just plain delusional I take it. Everyone but you, probably.
    To deny what is obviously true, in the face of overwhelming proof that it is true, and in the complete absence of any logical evidence to support that denial, is prima facie proof that one is delusionally insane.

    If you choose to argue that male is female, that female is male, then you cannot evade what this clearly tells us about your mental health.

    Those, such as yourself, who cannnot grasp the difference between male and female are and will always be a tiny, insignificant minority.
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