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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    This has nothing to do with sex. If I get hooves implanted, can I legally be called a horse?
    The analogy went over your head a little bit apparently even with the sarcasm. Sorry about that.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Can this woman legally be called a cat?Attachment 67184265
    Somehow I don't think she was going for cat.

    However with such in mind if someone wants to get legally seen as a cat, sure, let them lose all of their human rights and privileges.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    That which is "obvious" is not always true. For a long time it was obvious that the sun circled the earth. Of course, falsely defining the problem is also a hindrance. The problem is not that the mind/self is wrong. The problem is not that the body is wrong. The problem is that they are mismatched. Currently, the better solution is to alter the body to match the self. Do you have any links to therapy to alter the self to match the body that isn't akin to homosexuality conversion therapy?
    We don't know the source of the problem, but we do know there is nothing wrong with the body parts that are being act on in most cases. If it really is genetic like some in this thread has suggested then I'm hopeful for a real solution in the future.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Somehow I don't think she was going for cat.

    However with such in mind if someone wants to get legally seen as a cat, sure, let them lose all of their human rights and privileges.
    But if someone gets legally seen as a cat then someone can legally own them. D:

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Somehow I don't think she was going for cat.

    However with such in mind if someone wants to get legally seen as a cat, sure, let them lose all of their human rights and privileges.
    But is she a cat because she thinks shes a cat and got surgery to resemble a cat? Or is she just a woman who had surgery to pretend she is something she is not?
    By the same token, is a man a woman because he thinks hes a woman and got surgery to resemble a woman? Or is he just a man who had surgery to pretend he is something he is not?

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    But if someone gets legally seen as a cat then someone can legally own them. D:
    Yep. This world is built on lots of legal fictions. So sure, let them be owned and even put down if the owner decides to.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We don't know the source of the problem, but we do know there is nothing wrong with the body parts that are being act on in most cases. If it really is genetic like some in this thread has suggested then I'm hopeful for a real solution in the future.
    Its no more a problem then green eyes are.

    Unless you are saying green eyes are bad and shouldn't exist?
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    Its no more a problem then green eyes are.

    Unless you are saying green eyes are bad and shouldn't exist?
    Oh for god sakes. If it wasn't a problem then surgery and hormone treatment wouldn't be seen as a treatment. Green eyes doesn't need treated and no one sees it as a problem. Well, other than those that want blue eyes or something, but that is more of a preference thing.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    Its no more a problem then green eyes are.

    Unless you are saying green eyes are bad and shouldn't exist?
    Sorry Nicci, I'm going have to call you on this one. First off green eyes has never been a problem. I am unaware of anyone who has green eyes feeling as if they were a blue eyed person trapped in a green eyed body. Additionally, being transgendered is in and of it self a problem. I.e. the person's self does not match the body. If it wasn't a problem, then they would not have the disphoria. The issue isn't the existence of the problem, but what is a proper and ethical solution to the problem.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Oh for god sakes. If it wasn't a problem then surgery and hormone treatment wouldn't be seen as a treatment. Green eyes doesn't need treated and no one sees it as a problem. Well, other than those that want blue eyes or something, but that is more of a preference thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Sorry Nicci, I'm going have to call you on this one. First off green eyes has never been a problem. I am unaware of anyone who has green eyes feeling as if they were a blue eyed person trapped in a green eyed body. Additionally, being transgendered is in and of it self a problem. I.e. the person's self does not match the body. If it wasn't a problem, then they would not have the disphoria. The issue isn't the existence of the problem, but what is a proper and ethical solution to the problem.
    Sorry, I'm simply stating it is as natural as green eyes vs brown. There was a time when people thought other humans with light colored eyes could be easily induced or had spells cast on them to make them evil. Meanwhile those with darker colours were not as easy to entice.

    Yes, its a biological problem but as our technology increases so does our ability to fix the medical issue.
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