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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Because it gives off the impression they are women when they are not. Being factually correct is important in these kind of matters.
    No its your wanting to impose your personal beliefs using the law. It makes no difference in your life what sex a transgendered person is legally considered to be. Yet it personally bothers you, so you want your personal beliefs codified into law.

    Moreover, your beliefs are subjective. In my opinion your gender is defined by your hormone profile. For example, maybe men with man boobs should be considered less male legally as their body produces more estrogen than is normally present in a healthy male.

    Why should this person be legally considered a man instead of a woman:



    Yet this person is legally considered all male:

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    If you're comfortable forcing Buck Angel and other FTMs to use the bathroom of their gender at birth, instead of the gender they identify with, then we have no problem.
    The bathroom issue is dependent (imo) on where they currently are as far as surgery is concerned. Pre-Op, I would say you are with your birth. Post-Op (assuming bottom), I would say you end up with people whose genitals are closest to yours.



    It's a simplified way to put the issue, but the basic point is, no waving penises in front of 7 year old girls, regardless of your opinion of it.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    You're the one arguing that a guy that looks like a guy, sounds like a guy and acts like a guy should be legally considered a female. Because ...
    Because she is one?
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't heard anyone who opposes say exactly what defines a person's sex.
    If you ignore the hard, biological reality, all you have left is some nonsensical Politically-Correct crap about one's “gender” being what one “identifies” as it being.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If you ignore the hard, biological reality, all you have left is some nonsensical Politically-Correct crap about one's “gender” being what one “identifies” as it being.
    So what is it that determines a person's sex in your view? I still have not heard an answer.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't heard anyone who opposes say exactly what defines a person's sex.
    Those that opposing here are saying that the sex chromosomes and biological sex assigned at birth are what a person's sex is.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If you ignore the hard, biological reality, all you have left is some nonsensical Politically-Correct crap about one's “gender” being what one “identifies” as it being.
    If we didn't ignore the hard, biological reality; you were a female in the first few weeks of your life Bob. That's literally the reason why you have nipples.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    So what is it that determines a person's sex in your view? I still have not heard an answer.
    You haven't been looking very hard, then. Not that it should even be necessary. Before all this “transgender” nonsense arose, the answer was obvious. It still is.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Those that opposing here are saying that the sex chromosomes and biological sex assigned at birth are what a person's sex is.
    Its complicated.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    You haven't been looking very hard, then. Not that it should even be necessary. Before all this “transgender” nonsense arose, the answer was obvious. It still is.
    So you were a baby at birth. Should we still treat you like a baby?

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