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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Bob Blaylock and Henrin - just curious. How often are women raped by transgender M to F?

    Yeah. not a problem. If you are so concerned about women's safety, worry about those men who never transition, ok?

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Bob Blaylock and Henrin - just curious. How often are women raped by transgender M to F?

    Yeah. not a problem. If you are so concerned about women's safety, worry about those men who never transition, ok?
    I have no idea what that question has to do with me.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Bob Blaylock and Henrin - just curious. How often are women raped by transgender M to F?

    Yeah. not a problem. If you are so concerned about women's safety, worry about those men who never transition, ok?
    I'm still waiting on the men who have claimed that they would stop a MtF from entering the women's room while their wife/daughter was in there, to tell me how they are going to do so. Actually, I want to be there to watch them get hauled off for sexual assault since a package check is the only way to know...and even then it would only work for a pre-op.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Everything I have said on the subject is completely true and obvious, to anyone who hasn't been deceived by the lies and delusion surrounding the mental and moral illness that is transsexualism.

    Those of us who are sane are not under any obligation to play along with the sickness and delusions of those who are insane. There is no benefit to doing so.
    Except it isn't, which leads me to believe you've just heard about transsexualism in passing and nothing more.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Chromosomal abnormalities in transsexuals is hardly something you can at this point consider a consistent or something characteristic of transgenderism. The conclusion they seem to reach that a few reported cases of Chromosomal abnormalities in transgenders means there is any sort of cause and effect appears to then be extremely premature.

    Also, the Y chromosome not being active does not mean that everyone starts off as female.
    You are somewhat right, as there isn't a definitive study that proves it is chromosomal abnormality, yet. That being said, there is already one that shows this is the case and I wouldn't be surprised if that is what ends up being the consensus. Which would mean your ideal of transsexuality being a choice is false.

    If you want to prove me wrong I'm happy to look at a counter study, let me know when you find one.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    You are somewhat right, as there isn't a definitive study that proves it is chromosomal abnormality, yet. That being said, there is already one that shows this is the case and I wouldn't be surprised if that is what ends up being the consensus. Which would mean your ideal of transsexuality being a choice is false.

    If you want to prove me wrong I'm happy to look at a counter study, let me know when you find one.
    When did I say it was a choice? What I said is the hormone treatment and surgery is harmful to the patient and medically unethical. What I reject is the treatment being done by doctors and the declaration that transgenders are the opposite sex after the treatment and surgery is done.

    Also, your study didn't say that. What it said is that there isn't enough evidence to conclude that chromosomal abnormality is related to transsexuality.

    People like yourself might think I have something against transgenders, but my problem centers around incorrect declarations, a treatment that is extremely unethical and doesn't probably treat the patients condition, and transgenders portraying themselves as something they are not.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Yes and no.

    NO in terms of athletic, beauty and other competitions based in part or all upon physique. The bone structure of men is different than that of women. Even gender reassignment surgery does not alter this. Most specifically, men have longer leg ratios. Thus, the most "long-legged" women for beauty contests would actually genetically be men. This same advantage would apply to athletic competitions.

    In addition, in reassignment surgery the surgery also can include restructuring hips, cheeks, chin etc - for which the appearance of the person is no the actual person.

    Additionally, generally the person is using various steroids and drugs - which are prohibited in athletic competitions and many other competitions do drug testing. If they get to take drugs, then everyone gets to take drugs.

    So that is one "no" - because a yes would mean a person could sue for discrimination.

    Another "no" would be the military, again for the same reasons as above. However, the military generally will not accept anyone who has had major surgery anyway and certainly does not allow routine steroid usage.

    In other regards yes - PROVIDED the person actually had gender reassignment surgery to their genitals. A man putting on a dress and claiming to be transgendered doesn't work for the basis of discrimination claims and lawsuits. The person has to BECOME a man or a woman physically in terms of physical gender sexuality for legal protection and rights would not apply in most instances.

    Want legal definition protection as a woman? If he has to have his nuts and penis cut off. THEN he can claim he is a she.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    ^ Those are the reasons I voted "maybe."

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No brainier, absolutely.

    The same goes for transmen; they should be treated as men.
    It's not that simple.

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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Legally treated as women? You mean allowing them to fill out "F" on legal forms instead of "M"? Sounds okay to me.
    I self identify as a female black lesbian on all of my EEO forms.

    I mean, since we have rejected the science of DNA, I can self identify as any race/sex and sexual preference I want and they are required to treat me as such legally, right?
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