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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    Yeah let's just cover everything! Lipo for fat people. Leg extensions for short people. Nose jobs for ugly people. Face lifts for old people. Let's all go get some surgery to make us all feel better.

    And well - what's wrong with surgery to make one feel better?

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    And well - what's wrong with surgery to make one feel better?
    Oh absolutely nothing at all... as long as the person getting the surgery is paying for it themselves. Elective cosmetic surgery should not be paid for by taxpayers was the point.
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    Re: Should transwomen be legally treated as women?

    Nope. Just another mentally ill person that needs mental health resources.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    Oh absolutely nothing at all... as long as the person getting the surgery is paying for it themselves. Elective cosmetic surgery should not be paid for by taxpayers was the point.
    We pay for a lot of surgeries here in the US via tax payer dollars. There is nothing wrong with helping your fellow human. I wish you could see it that way but apparently the bias is far too strong.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    We pay for a lot of surgeries here in the US via tax payer dollars. There is nothing wrong with helping your fellow human. I wish you could see it that way but apparently the bias is far too strong.
    Helping someone on your own free will is noble and something to admire, but forcing your fellow human being to help others is contemptible behavior that should be scorned and condemned.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Helping someone on your own free will is noble and something to admire, but forcing your fellow human being to help others is contemptible behavior that should be scorned and condemned.
    No it shouldn't, we help people all the time with our tax dollars, roads, security, mail, and even help with groceries. Not to mention all the transplants(organs) the government pays for.

    Not having empathy for your fellow human in a society is what brings that society to a ruin.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    No it shouldn't, we help people all the time with our tax dollars, roads, security, mail, and even help with groceries. Not to mention all the transplants(organs) the government pays for.

    Not having empathy for your fellow human in a society is what brings that society to a ruin.
    Government is not society. Society is the people themselves; government is the body that rules over a given society. Empathy and taxes are just as opposed to each other as poison and health, or in the case of this thread, sex change operations and curing transgenderism. Forcing people to do what you want is not empathetic, but self-righteous bullying. If you want to be compassionate, empathic and all of that good stuff then you should help the poor, not vote for the government to use its domain of force to make other people do it for you.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Government is not society. Society is the people themselves; government is the body that rules over a given society. Empathy and taxes are just as opposed to each other as poison and health, or in the case of this thread, sex change operations and curing transgenderism. Forcing people to do what you want is not empathetic, but self-righteous bullying. If you want to be compassionate, empathic and all of that good stuff then you should help the poor, not vote for the government to use its domain of force to make other people do it for you.
    This is where we disagree, government is society. Setting the rules or not does not make it not part of society. That is how successful societies run, the government or ruling body helps the welfare of the entire society. When that breaks down or becomes corrupted does that society collapse.

    Like I said before " Basically you don't like it, its icky, and you don't want to change your sex. That is fine, no one is going to make you. I'm glad you don't have to deal with what a transsexual has to deal with on a daily basis. There is a reason the suicide rate is so high.".

    That's fine, but don't think a lot of us don't see through it to the heart of the matter.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicci View Post
    This is where we disagree, government is society. Setting the rules or not does not make it not part of society. That is how successful societies run, the government or ruling body helps the welfare of the entire society. When that breaks down or becomes corrupted does that society collapse.
    Government can not possibly be society. Government is what the people are ruled under if they like it or not; society is all the people of society and will exist regardless of what government there happens to be ruling over it.

    Like I said before " Basically you don't like it, its icky, and you don't want to change your sex. That is fine, no one is going to make you. I'm glad you don't have to deal with what a transsexual has to deal with on a daily basis. There is a reason the suicide rate is so high.".

    That's fine, but don't think a lot of us don't see through it to the heart of the matter.
    The heart of the matter is that no one can change their sex and sex change operations are extremely damaging to healthy body parts of very desperate patients. To demand people pay for an operation that is medically unethical can't possibly be seen in any other way than unjust and unwarranted.

    And I don't like it, and yes, it's pretty gross and disturbing that dudes are running around looking like women and trying to date straight men. Sorry, but that is pretty ****ing gross. Also, I think you meant transgenders have to deal with everyday, not transsexuals have to deal with everyday.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Government can not possibly be society. Government is what the people are ruled under if they like it or not; society is all the people of society and will exist regardless of what government there happens to be ruling over it.
    It is as much a part of the society as anything else to help the society

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The heart of the matter is that no one can change their sex and sex change operations are extremely damaging to healthy body parts of very desperate patients. To demand people pay for an operation that is medically unethical can't possibly be seen in any other way than unjust and unwarranted.

    And I don't like it, and yes, it's pretty gross and disturbing that dudes are running around looking like women and trying to date straight men. Sorry, but that is pretty ****ing gross. Also, I think you meant transgenders have to deal with everyday, not transsexuals have to deal with everyday.
    People can and do change their sex, its currently a lot easier for MtF to change their sex than FtM but that'll change in the next ten years. The surgery is no more unethical than someone getting a transplant for a new organ. I know you don't see it that way but that is how it works.

    I mean transsexuals, transgender is a giant umbrella of possibilities that people can fall under. Transsexuals actively change their sex, through hormones and surgery. They are transgendered individuals as much as a drag queen/king is under the same umbrella.

    I think you'd do well to actually meet a transsexual, but you probably have and didn't know it. While they aren't a high percentage of the population, as they are a minority of a minority, it is no different than meeting someone who is gay and not knowing it. Not everyone fits a mold of "flamboyant". You are probably picturing cross dressers instead of transsexuals in your head, and I can't fault you for that, but they are not the same.
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