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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Mentally ill? Can you prove that transgenders are mentally ill?
    It is called Gender Identity Disorder, and it is literally classified as a mental illness.

    If you consider Transgenders to be mentally ill then you should have no problem with more tax money going towards helping them feel more comfortable and more able to function in society.
    I do have a problem with it. An elective cosmetic surgery to "help somebody be more comfortable" by mutilating their genitals is not what I consider good use of tax dollars. Being comfortable is not a right.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Ah there it is. The egocentricity that says that those not in agreements with you must be barbaric. So are you going to be true to this calling and assert that all body mutilation is barbaric, from ear piercings, to naval piercings, to gagging, to tattoos, and on down the list? Or is it only those body mutilations that you don't agree with?
    Cutting a healthy body part into pieces and turning it into a game of complete the puzzle is barbaric and extremely harmful to the functionality of the body part in question.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Actually, in some people's opinion, particularly fundamentalist Christians but not limited there to, any non medical mutilation of the body is sinful and/or mentally disturbed. On the other side of the coin, there are those who enjoy extensive body modification. If you are holding the natural function of a penis to be procreation, then getting my tubes cut is no different from having the whole works removed and changed to an "innie".
    I don't happen to agree with doctors removing the functionality of the patient at all, so that includes getting your tubes cut. They're doctors and part of their job is to not harm their patient and cutting your tubes is obviously harmful to your body.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Mentally ill? Can you prove that transgenders are mentally ill?
    To believe something that is obviously, objectively false, such as man believing that he is or can become a woman, or vice-versa, is prima facie proof that one is delusional and insane. This is the plain, obvious truth.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And tax money is always being used to help those that are mentally ill. If you consider Transgenders to be mentally ill then you should have no problem with more tax money going towards helping them feel more comfortable and more able to function in society.
    As far as I know, transgenderism is the only form of insanity for which the accepted “treatment” consists of mutilating the patient to create an appearance of conforming to his delusion. To think that this is a valid way to treat a mental illness is as crazy as the illness that is being so treated.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    So according to you, if one is born with a vagina, but has the XY combination, then they are a female. I am not trying to be snarky or anything, but rewording your statement to see if I comprehended it correctly.
    Having a Y chromosome is actually not a guarantee that you will develop as a man. If your SRY gene malfunctions, then you're going to develop female.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Bigots and narrow minded people have mutilated minds.
    Get back to me when you have a real argument.

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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    It is called Gender Identity Disorder, and it is literally classified as a mental illness.
    You are a couple of years out of date, GID hasn't been a diagnosis for nearly two years now, not only is transsexuality not a mental disorder but it requires therapy and chemical therapy (via Endocrinologist) to treat effectively.
    Especially in light of the discrimination transsexuals experience on a daily basis. This forum is no exception.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    It is called Gender Identity Disorder, and it is literally classified as a mental illness.
    So was homosexuality at one point. The more that is known however shows that it isn't necessarily due to a mental illness. Just as was done in homosexuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    I do have a problem with it. An elective cosmetic surgery to "help somebody be more comfortable" by mutilating their genitals is not what I consider good use of tax dollars. Being comfortable is not a right.
    Gender identity disorder

    The current medical approach to treatment for persons diagnosed with gender identity disorder is to support the individual in physically modifying the body to better match the psychological gender identity.[10] This approach is based on the concept that their experience is based in a medical problem correctable by various forms of medical intervention.[10][11]
    IE: Not an elective surgery but a medical one.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    To believe something that is obviously, objectively false, such as man believing that he is or can become a woman, or vice-versa, is prima facie proof that one is delusional and insane. This is the plain, obvious truth.
    And yet men become women all the time and visa versa.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    As far as I know, transgenderism is the only form of insanity for which the accepted “treatment” consists of mutilating the patient to create an appearance of conforming to his delusion. To think that this is a valid way to treat a mental illness is as crazy as the illness that is being so treated.
    So everyone is to always be treated the same? Those with chicken pox should be treated with radiation like those with cancer? Those with heart disease should never be able to get a transplant since the medical procedure involves using something that is not naturally a part of their body when they were born? Different things should always be treated differently. Not even a lung cancer patient is treated the same as a patient with liver cancer.

    As far as "mutilation" goes, that is really subjective as to whether something is considered mutilation or not. For instance I consider tattoo's to be mutilation of the body and yet millions of people, including my wife, have tattoos. IE: Just because YOU consider it mutilation doesn't mean that it is.
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    Re: Should perverted men who “identify” as women be legally treated as women?

    Quote Originally Posted by 505 View Post
    It is called Gender Identity Disorder, and it is literally classified as a mental illness.



    I do have a problem with it. An elective cosmetic surgery to "help somebody be more comfortable" by mutilating their genitals is not what I consider good use of tax dollars. Being comfortable is not a right.
    Actually gender reassignment surgery is considered a treatment for Gender Identity Disorder, so I would make the argument if it is ultimately necessary for treatment and it should be covered.

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